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Titan variants with less weapons
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Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  Titan variants with less weapons

In early editions of Epic/TL there where Titans with less weapons.
That are Warlords and Reavers with only 2 arm weapons and no carapace weapons.
Couldn't this be an option for the AMTL-list as well? They could be made cheaper (and thus free points for more fomrations = activations).

Author:  clausewitz [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:45 am ]
Post subject:  Titan variants with less weapons

That can be done by swapping out weapons for an Icon or Devotional Bell.

I doubt that it would work with the points rebate for less weapons option, as the chasis still has a certain potency (in assult and resilience).

Author:  Legion 4 [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:07 am ]
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My TLs, include a number of the old AT1/SM1 Nightgaunt, Eclipse, etc. ... We will have them cost less just like in "the old days" ! :;): :D

Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:10 pm ]
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Yes, but a Nighgaunt has no devotional bell. So it should cost less. Say 100pts cheaper for a Warlord without carapace weapons und 50pts cheaper for a Reaver without carapace weapon.
It would give more flexibility and free up points.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:27 pm ]
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We've been using activation since we  started playing Epic in '90 (it took G/W years to figure out this is a better system !).   Don't get wrapped up in who has more activations, that has nothing to do with tactics, but playing with rule mechanics.  Come up with a plan and activate units to support that plan. Remain flexible and it's not the commander who does the most things right that wins but who does the least things wrong !     :;):  Too many E:A gamers play activation not tactics ! :D  But back OT, my Titans' points will be based on the original system, the less weapons/devices; the less points ...  :cool:

Author:  clausewitz [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:13 pm ]
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Legion 4, thats one of the great things about the game.  You can adjust it to suit your groups preferences.  However, for the GT list I don't think its worth trying to balance titans with less than normal weapon loadout.

Author:  primarch [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:32 pm ]
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Hi!

I was never very found of AT's fitting warlord chassi with less than 4 weapons, looked like a waste of an armored hull.

I think for standard games its best to standarize weapons at 4.

Primarch

Author:  Legion 4 [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:42 am ]
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"Always do what works for you !"  :D :;):

Author:  Tas [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:23 am ]
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 06 Nov. 2005 (14:42))
"Always do what works for you !" ?:D :;):

That should be in your signature block!  :D

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:32 am ]
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Nah ... I like Shakespeare's quote better ! :laugh: ?But it's truly my feelings, no one is going to come to any one's game location and tell them what to do and how to game ! (no =][= or commissars !) :;): ?For example, 3rdI & I (L4) thought SM2/TL was the worst of the Epic iterations and have been using activation since SM1 and don't paint many AFVs in circus colors ... but if you do ... go for it ! ?I may make fun of ya ! ?But hey ... do what works for you ! ?:p :laugh: :cool:




Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:47 pm ]
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Quote (primarch @ 05 Nov. 2005 (18:32))
I was never very found of AT's fitting warlord chassi with less than 4 weapons, looked like a waste of an armored hull.

Aye- or even better take a Deathstrike Cannon/Weapon Head for 5 weapons!!  :D

Warlord titans with 2 weapons and Banners/Icon/Devotional Bell look pretty. Warlord titans with 4 weapons look the business.  :blues:

Cheers

James

Author:  primarch [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:07 am ]
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Quote (Tas @ 06 Nov. 2005 (01:23))
Quote (Legion 4 @ 06 Nov. 2005 (14:42))
"Always do what works for you !" ?:D :;):

That should be in your signature block! ?:D

Hi!

I agree, it would save you time and carpel tunnel syndrome....  :;):

Primarch

Author:  primarch [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Titan variants with less weapons

Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 07 Nov. 2005 (13:47))
Quote (primarch @ 05 Nov. 2005 (18:32))
I was never very found of AT's fitting warlord chassi with less than 4 weapons, looked like a waste of an armored hull.

Aye- or even better take a Deathstrike Cannon/Weapon Head for 5 weapons!! ?:D

Warlord titans with 2 weapons and Banners/Icon/Devotional Bell look pretty. Warlord titans with 4 weapons look the business. ?:blues:

Cheers

James

Hi!

I agree.  :D

Primarch

Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:03 am ]
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Shakespeare is rolling over in his grave !:laugh:

Author:  Tas [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Titan variants with less weapons

Quote (Legion 4 @ 07 Nov. 2005 (09:32))
Nah ... I like Shakespeare's quote better ! :laugh: ?But it's truly my feelings, no one is going to come to any one's game location and tell them what to do and how to game ! (no =][= or commissars !) :;): ?For example, 3rdI & I (L4) thought SM2/TL was the worst of the Epic iterations and have been using activation since SM1 and don't paint many AFVs in circus colors ... but if you do ... go for it ! ?I may make fun of ya ! ?But hey ... do what works for you ! ?:p :laugh: :cool:

You should start running councelling and rehab group sessions for GW Fan-Boyz who, after having spent their whole youth playing 40k, reach the age where they become "veterans" and thus spurned by the company they love.

You know the ones: they pick up fantatsic models and all they can say is "he shouldnt have a 3rd grenade on his web-belt because you havent paid for it" or "The trim on that Honour mark should be in purple not green because Codex XXX page XX says..."

Such people are in dire need of rehabilitation and a modicum of L4's good sense!

:;):

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