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[OLD] Skitarii 2.04 (in development)
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Author:  Vaaish [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  [OLD] Skitarii 2.04 (in development)
This is the 2.04 Skitarii release. It's in the same document as the AMTL list. Development will be shifting to this list now. This list is currently Developmental, but do keep in mind that with the recent string of releases from FW we may be seeing changes to units or the addition of new units.

Changelog:
Ark Mechanicus increased to 200 points.
Ark mechanics weapons: 2x pinpoint attacks OR Orbital bombardment
Plasma Destructor: 75 points, 6x MW2+, Slow firing 75cm

Sagitarii Maniple renamed Sagitarii Demi-Century
Ordinatus Minrous Company renamed Ordinatus Minorus

Skitarii Core Upgrades:
Transportation upgrade changes to: Enough Chimedons to carry the entire formation (Including any upgrades) for 200 points.

Errata:
Ordinatus Minorus entry reworded for clarity: Select one weapon per Minorus from the Battle Titan Weapons list.
All Thunderbolt weapons should read fixed forward.
Thunderbolt was listed as Fighter, should be Fighter-Bomber.

Attachments:
AMTL3.23.pdf [2.6 MiB]
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Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Ordinatus Majoris are not allowed to take Battle Titan Weapons?
Author:  Vaaish [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Not currently, no. It's not a new change, been like that for a bit now to make it easier to balance by streamlining the weapons options for Ordinatus. It also helps differentiate the Minorus and Majoris.
Author:  Dughan [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
so, no chimerax yet? i actualy own some of those enough to make a unit. same with Chimedons
Author:  Vaaish [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
There are no plans to add the chimerax to the list and never were to my knowledge. It's a variant that was mostly replaced by the Hydra anyway.
Author:  Dughan [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
ah.. i'll just use my chimerax as hydra's since i only have 3 of them anyway painted up for my guard
Author:  Angel_of_Caliban [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Dwarf Supreme wrote:
Ordinatus Majoris are not allowed to take Battle Titan Weapons?

Indeed it seems that way, takes some of the fun out of the list.
Author:  madd0ct0r [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
the ordiantus weapons are pretty beasty though. on something with that size chassis and point cost, I'd want to get my money's worth.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
I cut out the Majoris taking the battle titan weapons for two reasons. The first is that it removes overlap between the majoris and minorus. With overlap, a majoris mounting two battle titan weapons is effectively the same unit as the minorus consolidated into a single platform (majoris has better CC and trades two HB for two lascannons). Since the Minorus is 100 points less, there's not much point in taking the majorus unless you take an ordinatus weapon. The second reason is to reduce the number of potential weapon combinations that need testing in hopes of speeding up development a bit.


I see three option for the majoris. One, we leave it as is; two, we allow the chassis to mount battle titan weapons or three, we expand the list of majoris only weapons to include other known majoris types.

I think the third option is likely our best route for future development of the Majoris.
Author:  wargame_insomniac [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Vaaish wrote:

three, we expand the list of majoris only weapons to include other known majoris types.

I think the third option is likely our best route for future development of the Majoris.

I think this also best fits the background that we have had so far for Majoris.
Author:  Hulksmash [ Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
I agree with the third option. I think that's the way to go.
Author:  mordoten [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Third option sounds best!
Author:  Vaaish [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Ok, then that's what we'll do.

Here's the dev path:

1. finish integrating new weapons from FW sources
2. test list for general balance with updated weapons (no major balance issues)
3. expand Majoris weapons options

After this point we'll have a few options prior to final testing for approval. First option is to halt Skitarii Dev and test Cataphractii core and heavy formations so we can allow more than just the Macharius as allies in the Skitarii list. The second option is to develop the defensive addon and include it in the submission for approved. The last option is to test the Skitarii list for approved once we finish step three.
Author:  mordoten [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
Second option has my vote!
Author:  Hulksmash [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skitarii 2.04
3rd has mine. More fully approved lists the better.
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