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I know this will probably be met with howls of indignation, but I'm slowly recognizing more and more value in the idea of "fixed" titan patterns. I think we've successfully demonstrated issues with both the basic/support system and the point-based system.
While I don't want to advocate completely shutting down weapon selection, a more limited approach might have value with respect to establishing balance. It could also be useful for making forge world/titan legion styles distinctive and for allowing some of the alternate overall titan "concept" patterns, e.g. Hun, Eclipse, etc..
Just to throw out an idea of how that might work...
Basic titans with the chassis as in the book.
Warlord and Reaver patterns - 2 fixed weapons, probably 1 arm and 1 carapace. Fixed weapon fit based on forgeworld and/or legion style, e.g. Ryza/Legio Crucius might have TLD and Plasma Cannon as standard.
Warhound Pack - 2 of the 4 weapons fixed
Warhound (solo) - 1 fixed weapon
"Style patterns" can have simple chassis variations that go with the fixed weapons to make a definite style. For examples:
Eclipse Warlord (Legate) - 2 fixed weapons and an Icon. The Legate should drive an Eclipse, so this option would be available in some form to most Legions.
Warlord Nightgaunt (assault) - +5cm move, 1 less weapon slot, and 2 assault weapons
Reaver Goth (support) - +1 void shield, 2 long-range fixed weapons
All Legio have basic patterns available. Depending on the style of the Legion and Forgeworld, you could have certain style patterns available. Heavy firepower forgeworlds might have a Nemesis (support) pattern available but not a Nightgaunt (assault). A fanatical legion might have Reaver Vandals (inspirational) available in addition to the Warlord Eclipse.
Additional weapons could be chosen from a list, possibly with point costs attached, and you have the possibility for some fun applications of the old AT background and fluff. However, with the selection of options being more controlled, the potential for min-max is reduced and it's easier to determine a basic chassis cost.
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For a more pertinent and detailed example, the Gryphonne IV world seems to be focused on high-volume ballistic weapons - autocannons, assault cannons, and such. (Please forgive me if I've misinterpreted that and follow along for example purposes). Aside from that it seems pretty "generic" with respect to legion organization. Since the Gryphonne IV style of weaponry is pretty generic in application, that makes the legion a good pattern for a basic TL list.
Basic Titans:
Warlord - Gatling Cannon x2 as fixed
Reaver - Gatling Cannon and VMB as vixed
Warhound Pack - 2x VMB as fixed (same titan or one each)
Support Titans (1 per basic):
Eclipse Warlord - Gatling Cannon x2, Icon, Legate option
Goth Reaver - 2x ML, +1 Void shield as fixed
Warhound - VMB as fixed
Tech Guard Support (1 per basic titan or X% of total points or whatever):
Autocannons and assault cannons as primary armament
Mix of mounted and unmounted for general purpose ability
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Or, Legio Victorum, known for Blitz tactics, could be a variant list...
Basic:
Warlord - Plasma Cannon, TLD (energy weapons don't require ammo)
Reaver - 2x TLD
Warhound Pack - Plasma Blastgun, TLD
Support:
Warlord Eclipse/Legate - 2xTLD, Icon
Warlord Nightgaunt - Chainfist, Lasburner, +5cm move, only one weapon choice
Vandal "Corvus" Reaver - Corvus pod, Chainfist, Icon
Warhound - TLD
Tech Guard (fast moving):
All mounted or transported via Corvus
Kataphractoi more common
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