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Author:  drl [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Hi all,

Long-time lurker here; I've been watching development of the AMTL since EA first came out, though. And since things seem to be moving here again, I thought I'd chime in with a question - not to step on toes or try to change people's minds about the (sometimes very heated) development process of the list, just to ask.

(Well, not quite. For the record, I happen to think, having seen and played with most versions of the AMTL list, that a trimmed-down list with a relatively small number of pre-configured weapon loadouts will be easier to balance, and with that in mind you'll be able to see where my question is coming from - but y'all don't know me from Adam, so I'm not expecting for anybody to listen to my opinion, heh.)

Anyway, does anyone with Adeptus Titanicus have the data cards with the various titan weapon loadouts? And if you do, can you please post 'em? The only one I remember is the "Nemesis", with two rocket launchers and two defense lasers, but it seems to me these might be a good jumping-off point for loadouts in EA, and I think it'd be neat to do some playtesting and see how they hold up.

Thanks in advance!
Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Here it is:

Warhound (Mastiff): Speed 24, 2 VS, RA-Plasmagun(2), LA-Autocannon(2)
Warhound (Mastiff): Speed 24, 2 VS, RA-Lascannon(2), LA-Plasmagun(2)
Warhound (Wolf): Speed 28, 2 VS, RA-Lascannon(1), LA-Multi-Melta(2)

Reaver (Vandal): Speed 24, 3 VS, RA-Lascannon(2), LA-Lascannon(2)
Reaver (Hun): Speed 20, 4 VS, RA-Chainfist, LA-Multi-Melta(2), C-Multi-Launcher(2)
Reaver (Goth): Speed 16, 5 VS, RA-Multi-Launcher(4), LA-Multi-Launcher(4), C-Defence-Laser(4)

Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 16, 4 VS, RA-Las-Cutter, LA-Defence-Laser(1), RC-Multi-Launcher(2),
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 16, 4 VS, RA-Multi-Launcher(2), LA-Defence-Laser(1), RC-Multi-Launcher(1), LC-Auto-Cannon(1)
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 16, 3 VS, RA-Las-Cutter, LA-Multi-Launcher(2), LC-Las-Cannon(3)
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 16, 2 VS, RA-Chain-Fist, LA-Auto-Cannon(3), LC-Multi-Melta(3)
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 14, 6 VS, RA- Defence-Laser(1), LA-Power-Fist, RC-Plasma-Cannon(1), LC-Plasma-Cannon(1)
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 14, 4 VS, RA-Auto-Cannon(4), LA-Auto-Cannon(4), LC-Macro-Cannon(1)
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 14, 6 VS, RA-Chain-Fist, LA-Macro-Cannon(1), RC-Plasma-Gun(3), LC-Plasma-Gun(3)
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 12, 6 VS, RA-Las-Cannon(4), LA-Chain-Fist, RC-Plasma-Gun(4), LC-Macro-Cannon(1)
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 12, 4 VS, RA-Multi-Melta(4), LA-Power-Fist, RC-Las-Cannon(4),LC-Las-Cannon(4)
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 12, 6 VS, RA-Defence-Laser(1), LA-Defence-Laser(1), RC-Multi-Launcher(4), LC-Multi-Launcher(4)
Warlord (Nightgaunt): Speed 20, 3 VS, RA-Chain-Fist, LA-Multi-Melta(2)
Warlord (Nightgaunt): Speed 20, 2 VS, RA-Las-Cannon(2), LA-Power-Fist

RA = Right Arm
LA = Left Arm
C = Carapace
RC = Right Carapace
LC = Left Carapace

Las-Cannon = Turbo-Laser Destructors
Defence-Laser = Vulcano Cannon
Multi-Melta = Melta-Cannon (or Inferno Gun on Warhound?)
Multi-Launcher = Rocket Launcher
Macro-Cannon = Quake Cannon
Plasmagun = Plama Blastgun
Plasma-Cannon = Plasma Destructor
Las-Cutter =Laser Burner
Auto-Cannon = Vulcan Mega-Bolter (or Gatling Blaster on Battletitans?)

The number in (x) behind the weapons name designates the "barrels" = shots each weapon has.

VS = Void Shields
Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Now i translate into Epic: Armageddon stats and names:

Warhound (Mastiff): Speed 25, 2 VS, RA-Plasma Blastgun, LA-Vulcan Mega-Bolter
Warhound (Mastiff): Speed 25, 2 VS, RA-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LA-Plasma Blastgun
Warhound (Wolf): Speed 30, 2 VS, RA-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LA-Inferno Gun
Warhound (Jackal) Speed 30, 2VS, RA-Vulcan Mega-Bolter, LA-Inferno-Gun

Reaver (Vandal): Speed 25, 3 VS, RA-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LA-Turbo-Laser Destructors
Reaver (Hun): Speed 20, 4 VS, RA-Chainfist, LA-Melta Cannon, C-Rocket Launcher
Reaver (Goth): Speed 15, 5 VS, RA-Rocket Launcher, LA-Rocket Launcher, C-Vulcano Cannon

Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 15, 4 VS, RA-Laser Burner, LA-Vulcano Cannon RC-Rocket Launcher,
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 15, 4 VS, RA-Rocket Launcher, LA-Vulcano Cannon, RC-Rocket Launcher, LC-Gatling Blaster
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 15, 3 VS, RA-Laser Burner, LA-Rocket Launcher, LC-Turbo-Laser Destructors
Warlord (Eclipse): Speed 15, 2 VS, RA-Chain Fist, LA-Gatling Blaster, LC-Melta Cannon
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 15, 6 VS, RA- Vulcano Cannon, LA-Power-Fist, RC-Plasma Destructor, LC-Plasma Destructor
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 15, 4 VS, RA-Gatling Blaster, LA-Gatling Blaster, LC-Quake Cannon
Warlord (Death Bringer): Speed 15, 6 VS, RA-Chain-Fist, LA-Quake Cannon, RC-Plasma Blastgun, LC-Plasma Blastgun
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 10, 6 VS, RA-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LA-Chain-Fist, RC-Plasma Blastgun, LC-Quake Cannon
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 10, 4 VS, RA-Melta Cannon LA-Power-Fist, RC-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LC-Turbo-Laser Destructors
Warlord (Nemesis): Speed 10, 6 VS, RA-Vulcano Cannon, LA-Vulcano Cannon, RC-Rocket Launcher, LC-Rocket Launcher
Warlord (Nightgaunt): Speed 20, 3 VS, RA-Chain-Fist, LA-Melta Cannon
Warlord (Nightgaunt): Speed 20, 2 VS, RA-Turbo-Laser Destructors, LA-Power-Fist
Author:  drl [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Thanks!

That's rather more loadouts than I remembered, but OTOH I lost my copy of AT about 10 years ago, so.

See, that looks workable to me - move all the 3-weapon Warlord loadouts to Reavers, ditch the Nightgaunts since they won't fit in anwhere, and you have a pretty workable basis for predetermined weapons sets.

Again, not that I expect anyone to particularly pay any attention to me, but I think I'll play some games with these.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Didn't I send you those cards, BL ? ?And good job converting AT1 to E:A, very useful ! :D ? And I have all classes of Titans since I started with AT1/SM1 and will keep it that way regardless of E:A's take on it ! :)   And the reason there are more configurations then you remember in AT1, is the Mastiff, Wolf, and Vandal were in W/D 109, IIRC.  And the Jackel a recent F/W machination ... IIRC ..
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:06 pm ]
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I would ask the question why those weapon fits and not the others for AT? Loads were in WD and those ones were essentially quick start titans, the titans themselves being configurable.
Author:  BlackLegion [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Yes L4 it's from your copys :)

Which other weapon fits? So far i know these are theonly ones given data for. Yes youcould configure titans however you want, but the configurations above where in the rulebook.

I don't know if there where similar datasheeds provided in WD with for example a Wrecker or Fire Control Center.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Thought so, BL ... :)  There is probably data on those other pieces you mentioned ... I'll have find the time to research it !
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure all of the metal titan bitz were released for Adeptus Titanicus and thus should have stats for them in WD or Codex Titanicus.
Author:  BlackLegion [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Yes the stats are in Codex Titanicus, but i asked after Datasheets for Titan-weapon configurations as in Adeptus Titanicus 1st.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Yep, I got the W/D article with ALL the Titan bitz(!) made for AT1, my Titan binder...   Now let me find the issue number ... standby ...
Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
W/D 133 for AT1 ... W/D 142 for SM2 ... Got'm ! ?Titan weapons like light support missles, wrecker ball, Chaos tails, Energy whip, Platforms, Carapace Laser, Devotion Bell, Titan heads, etc., etc. ... :)
Author:  BlackLegion [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Now you only need a scanner :D
Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Well, I can copy them (you just want the AT1) and snail-mail'm to you ?! You still in Leipzig ? ???
Author:  BlackLegion [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Question for folks who still have A. Titanicus
Here are the weapon availabilities and restrictions for each Titan according to Codex Titanicus:

Warhound can choose from:
Inferno Gun, Plasma Blastgun, Multiple Rocket Launcher, Turbo-Laser Destructor and Vulcan Mega-Bolter

Reaver can choose from:
Same as Warhound plus
Barrage Missile Launcher, Battle Claw, Chain Fist, Combat Head, Gatling Blaster, Harpoon Missile, Laser Blaster, Laser Burner, Melta Cannon, Power Fist, Power Ram, Power Saw, Quake Cannon, Trident, Volcano Cannon, Vortex Missile, Warp Missile, Weapon Head and Wrecker.

Warlord can choose from:
Same as Warhound and Reaver plus
Carapace Landing Pad, Carapace Multi Lasers, Corvus Assault Pod, Deathstrike Cannon, Fire Control Centre, Plasma Cannon and Plasma Destructor.

I recommend to adopt this weapon restrictions. So in order to use certain weapons you have to field a Warlord titan. Which would make the Warlord a likely choise instead of a Reaver in spite of his high points cost.
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