I don't see the minorus changing out the HB. I was a bit reticent about the change when it was proposed, but there is definitely president for bolter rounds being AA weapons if you check the Thunderhawk and any of the aircraft armed with stormbolters. They ARE after all rocket propelled which I don't thing jives with slow moving.

Besides, even in modern times we send relitively slow moving chunks of metal and rocket propelled explosive filled missiles at fast moving aircraft.

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You could always think of the minoris attempting a remote hack of the aircrafts controls, locking the pilot out for vital seconds whilst it's sophisticated heavy bolters could track and predict the jet's location before opening fire.

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ok last update before i put all of this into a pending changes doc for serious testing:

Praetorian Combat Servitors
Infantry 15cm 4+ 4+ 5+
Autocannon 45cm AP5+ / AT6+ AND
Autocannon 30cm AA6+
Augmentations (Base Contact) Assault Weapon, Macro-Weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Fearless, Invulnerable Save.

Should this prove less useful than hoped, we'll move it back to 45cm.

200 Sagitarii Maniple (4 Sagitarii +1 Tech Priest)

I'm tempted to leave the maniple cost at 300 points and include chimedons in the point cost. That would make the troops around 175 and the transport 125 points. My reasoning is that the AdMech would probably want these guys to be fairly mobile to get in position where needed to support the rest of the force. It'll also make them a bit tougher with 10 units and a way for the infantry to gain a bit of cover. It'll also prevent garrisoning these guys leaving that open for other options.

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I like that statline for the AA Autocannon. Depending on how it takes, I may modify the Sabre to match.

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These are definitely worthwhile now. Mandatory Chimedons is fine, too, I don't see taking them without transports anyway.

Well, in the proposal they are a support formation and upgrades have been limited to core formations for quite some time so they wouldn't be able to take transport unless it was an option in their list entry. I'm not very excited of them being 200 points since they start coming into conflict with the assault robot detachment and they provide better supporting fire. Not as good ranged firepower and infantry vs av, but still seems to take interest away from the Assault Robots. Giving them transport and boosting the points puts them a bit higher than robots.

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hy , i tried some list with your stats and units (with the information from this topic.)
I have found two Units and rules that need some thinking about :

I think the Shimeddon is a good idea but totaly over Powered .It cost the same like a shimera and have many more Weapons(It have the same Weapon like the Conqueror and the cost for a conqueror an more than double the cost.)
i Think it can compared with a Razorback it cost 35 Points in the Space Marine Army (But the Shimeddon is much better than a Razoback ) so the cost must be more than a from a Razorback to make it balanced.

The Executioner has wrong stats . In the actual imperial guard Codex for Warhammer 40K Games Workshop has included the new and actual stats for an executioner .And i think all rules and stats based on Games workshop rules and ideas .So the stats from the epic executioner must be bring on the actuall stats from GW.In the new stats the executioner has not and MW ,it has a rapid fire long range Plasma cannon .(so the stats can not be more than 60cm 2 x AP4+/AT4+.So this unit can be included .
In this version it is totaly over Powered to all other units and the cost are too low

Perhaps you can thinks about this two units for your list .

I think this marks one of the few times I've seen someone taking the Russes. I'll make a note to look at them more closely. Same for the Chimedons.

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