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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:41 pm 
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It originally consisted of a hundred soldiers; later 60 to (ideally) 80 men distributed among 10 contubernia (of 8 men each). The remaining number of men required for a full count of one hundred was taken up by various noncombatants attached for administrative, logistical or other purposes within the legion. Each contubernium (the minimal unit in the Roman legion) lived in the same tent while on campaign or the same bunk room in barracks. Centuriae were grouped by pairs forming maniples, and later into 6-century cohorts.

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 Post subject: Re: AdMech Naming Conventions
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:51 pm 
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Vaaish wrote:
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the skitarii infantry, though, on the basis that it consists of 50 troops and the word century itself is more readily equated to 100.


I don't think we need to literally represent 100 men. A century in the old Roman legions didn't always equal 100... IIRC it started out at 80 men for a while and eventually ended up around 100 men.


The counter to that is that while normally these terms are approximations, this IS after all the AdMech we're talking about here. Thirty digit precision persnickety pedantic mathematical accuracy is what they're all about.


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You could also look at it as a century is 10 squads of 5 men and the maniple is 5 squads of 5 men. That would fit the admech.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:25 am 
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Ok, where are we on this, at least where were we before diverging into the history of the Roman legions? :)

I think I posted this:
Skitarii Demi-century -> Skitarii Century
Sagitarii Maniple -> Sagitarii Century
Ordinatus Minorus Company -> Ordinatus Minorus Century

Macharius Cohort -> Macharius Century
Super Heavy Cohort -> Super Heavy Tank Century
Super Heavy Tank -> Super Heavy Tank Cohort

but we'd talked about keeping the name of the Demi-Century the same and thinking about it further, I'm inclined to extend this to the Sagitarii while expanding this to demi-century status. That makes the latest naming convention this:

Skitarii Demi-century -> Skitarii Demi-Century
Sagitarii Maniple -> Sagitarii Demi-Century


On the tanks and ordinatus: Should the minorus be considerd a century, cohort, or maniple or just plain Ordinatus Minorus? I'm inclined to just leave it Ordinatus Minorus to match the naming of the Majoris despite it consisting of multiple units.

Ordinatus Minorus Company -> Ordinatus Minorus

Still not fond of the names for the tanks but nothing really new to add.

Macharius Cohort -> Macharius Century
Super Heavy Cohort -> Super Heavy Tank Century
Super Heavy Tank -> Super Heavy Tank Cohort

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Cataprhact or cataphractii seems to just refer to the crew of Mechanicus armored units so I'm not sure it should apply to SHT singles.

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We might be just overthinking the idea for the single super heavy. I'm inclined to just leave it as Super Heavy Tank for the single. Still not sure about the company level formations. Maniple or Cohort sounds better...

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company < cohort ;D

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Another route we could go with the super heavies: a quick look in ye olde latin translator tells me that the word contingent as it relates to a detachment of troops is cognati or cognatus. The AdMech also seem to like calling things Veneratii and what not for special detachments or veteran units. So what about this:

Macharius Cohort -> Macharius Cognati
Super Heavy Cohort -> Super Heavy Tank Cognati
Super Heavy Tank -> Super Heavy Tank Cohort

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From the Republican period, a 30-man squadron of cavalry was a "turma" (plural "turmae"). Decurions commanded each squadron (3 to a Cohort's cavalry support wing).

The Romans referred to their allied cavalry wings as "Alae" (singular "Ala") or for the germanic allied units, "Foederati."

If that helps offer suggestions. I could see fielding turmae of Leman Russes and alae of heavy tanks to split hairs, since the Macharius variants might be getting used as guard-intended tanks repurposed for Mechanicum use. Just a thought!

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I've been discussing some of this with a friend of mine and I don't think Alae or Ala would work.

Just think of Macharius Alae, floats like a butterfly....

or how about Super Heavy Ala... mode anyone? :)

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eh.. not too fond of the straight up translation myself. I think it works best and follows the rest of the naming convention to have the word representing the group be the latin or pseudo-latin than to rename the entire thing into latin.

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