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AMTL v3.09
Evil and Chaos
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:22 pm 
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Ah yes I meant to raise that thought:

What do people think of allowing the Legate (Supreme Commander) on the Reaver Titan?


(I noticed I can't try my plan of 3 warhound packs loaded with 6 Icons making a combined assault!)


Apparently I already anticipated that particular evile. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:54 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 19 2008,19:22)
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What do people think of allowing the Legate (Supreme Commander) on the Reaver Titan?

Why not :)

There are any number of reasons why a Legate might choose a Reaver as his command titan...

He prefers Reavers to Warlords...or perhaps he had command of a Reaver prior to becoming a Legate and decided to keep his trusted warmount as his command titan...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:09 pm 
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I've had a few thoughts after my lastest game.

1.  The skitarri Quattro-century seems over costed for what it does.  hasthe cost not been reduced in line with their reduced weapon?

2.  should the Quattro-century and the recon cohort be doubled in size, and points?

At the oment they feel like they are filler units.  Designed to artifically increase the activation count of the army.

the armies main atvantage is that its activations don't degrade over time.  this should be balanced by having few activations.  I managed to fit 7 into a 3K game against Berady, including a 1000pt warlord.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:14 pm 
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Something I was asked by a long-time Epic player today, who also manages a GW store:

'Should the AMTL have infantry at all? Are they truly vital to the army list? If you look at the background, the Skitarii are used as PDF, and as their own army, but are very rarely attached to the Titan Legions themselves ; In some respects the split between Titans and Skitarii is almost as dramatic as that between the Marines and the Guard'

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:17 am 
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Any thoughts on the Legate being "Battle Titans only" like the Sacred Icon?

I'm for it.

It'd be nice to have the option of a SC without being forced to take a Warlord.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:55 am 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 19 2008,23:14)
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Something I was asked by a long-time Epic player today, who also manages a GW store:

'Should the AMTL have infantry at all? Are they truly vital to the army list? If you look at the background, the Skitarii are used as PDF, and as their own army, but are very rarely attached to the Titan Legions themselves ; In some respects the split between Titans and Skitarii is almost as dramatic as that between the Marines and the Guard'

I think that they should be including in limited numbder.  We don't have that much info on how the legios work.  They could easily each have a few centuries of skitarri used for guard duties when the titans are on campaign, not trusting other imperial forces to do it well enough.

these forces could be used in the field as well,to aid the titans, by scouting ahead, with the warhounds, of finishing of the survivors after a battle titan has blasted a defencive position, so the titan can go on to more important things

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What about the old Titan gaurd infantry formations from the background,don't they count as reason to include infantry with Titans.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:31 pm 
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I don't think infantry has enough of a place to go into the list. The only reason people would ever take them is to boost activation count, and low activations is supposed to be the downside of the list.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:58 pm 
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If the Titan Legions operate alone then the leg bastions of the Imperator Titan would be pretty useless.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:54 pm 
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(BlackLegion @ Apr. 20 2008,13:58)
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If the Titan Legions operate alone then the leg bastions of the Imperator Titan would be pretty useless.

Leg bastions which are filled with Skitarri combat servitors in dark apostle.

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(ragnarok @ Apr. 20 2008,14:54)
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(BlackLegion @ Apr. 20 2008,13:58)
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If the Titan Legions operate alone then the leg bastions of the Imperator Titan would be pretty useless.

Leg bastions which are filled with Skitarri combat servitors in dark apostle.

I suppose it depends on which ever changing background you choose to go with.
In previous editions of Epic ,the Titan Guard Infantry formation could go in the bastions.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:40 pm 
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The infantry could be included in the price of the Imperator and the Corvus. They needn't count as a slot.


Indeed.

If infantry did go from the list I think Knights need to be considered again.

I'm currently on the edge as to whether we go for a 'generic' knight, or the paladin, but either way one of them is coming in.

The full range of knights will not be available, the community consensus is very clear on that.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:04 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 19 2008,23:14)
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'Should the AMTL have infantry at all? Are they truly vital to the army list? If you look at the background, the Skitarii are used as PDF, and as their own army, but are very rarely attached to the Titan Legions themselves ; In some respects the split between Titans and Skitarii is almost as dramatic as that between the Marines and the Guard'

Dark Apostle is the only glimpse we have as to how Skitarii might function in the field.

All other instances in recent fluff depict titans as operating as a seperate force without direct infantry support.

Though they do appear to operate in concert with other Imperial forces.

Legion gives a pretty good description of this when a titan battle group arrives to break the back of the final counter-attack on Nurth.

As to whether or not the Skitarii should be included in the titan list proper...from a purely operational standpoint, I can't believe that in 10,000 years the AdMech would not have developed some sort of operational doctrine for deploying all of their assets together.

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