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Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)

 Post subject: Re: Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:53 am 
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Khan wrote:
Hi Folks,

Quick question about the Titans weapons choices :

Does minoris have access to all the arsenal (especially the « carapace only » ones ?)


They have Ordinatus point values assigned, so I'd say that's a pretty clear, "yes".


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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:55 pm 
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Sable Wyvern wrote:
Khan wrote:
Hi Folks,

Quick question about the Titans weapons choices :

Does minoris have access to all the arsenal (especially the « carapace only » ones ?)


They have Ordinatus point values assigned, so I'd say that's a pretty clear, "yes".


Indeed ;D

The obviousness was too obvious. Thx


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:27 pm 
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Just to reinforce this, yes the minorus get access to all the titan weapons regardless of the carapace restriction on titans.

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:33 am 
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I just noticed that Cataphracti Support states "Must take one Vulcan Megabolter or Vanquisher Cannon".

This makes any combination of three VMBs/VCs legal, and there's no reason to take a battlecannon variant (if you've taken three, you have met the requirement to take one).

I presume this is actually meant to match the Krieg Heavy Tank option, and should be something like "Must take one (and only one) VMB or one VC." I'm guessing space considerations are at play here again, but the way it's done in the Krieg list, with the command vehicle is much clearer.


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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:01 am 
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You are correct. I had a separate entry for quite some time on the list for the command vehicle but it seemed like a waste of space on the summary to include an separate entry for what is really just a couple of lines that are different.

However I don't agree your reading of the actual entry to include an unlimited number of options for the cataphractii.

Epic lists have always been permissive in that they don't allow options beyond what is stated. In this case you get three tanks and must take one with either a VMB or Vanq. It does not say you may take more than one or that you must have at least one with the option. As such more than one is not allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii 2.1 (Approved)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:31 am 
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It could just be me, but when I read it, I took it to mean at least one, and it never occurred to me it might mean anything else. It was only later, when browsing statlines and noticing the vanqisher version is objectively better, that I started to question this. Even then, I wasn't sure until I cross-checked with the guard lists.


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