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[BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
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Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Well, got in a game with the new Tyranid rules, versus the tough old Greenskins...  I've found Tyranids to often have trouble against them, as they're playing to the Orks' strengths.

Let's see how it goes!
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Rules Used

Tyranids 7.3.1
Experimental Tyranid AA
WE Synapse count full DC for BTS

Armies Used

Stomp-M-Flat Warhorde - 2980 points

Big Warband
Warboss
3 Nobz
12 Boyz
4 Grotz
8 Battlewagonz

Mekboy Stompamob 1
3 Stompas
Kombat 'Ammers
Supa-Stompa
2 Soopa-gunz
1 Mega-Choppa
1 Powerfield

Mekboy Stompamob 2
3 Stompas
Kombat 'Ammers
1 Supa-Stompa
2 Soopa-gunz
1 Mega-choppa
1 Powerfield

Normal Kult of Speed
8 Skorchas

Big Blitz Brigade
8 Deth Koptas

Fighta-Bommerz
6 Fighta-Bommers

Gargant - (BTS Target)
2 Soopa-Gunz
1 Mega-Choppa
4 Powerfields

The New Swarm in Town - 3000 points
(BTS Target - 7 Synapse Creatures)

Assault Swarm 1
3 Warriors
5 Raveners

Assault Swarm 2
3 Tyranid Warriors (Winged)
4 Gargoyles
3 Raveners
8 Termagants

Attack Swarm
1 Hive Tyrant
1 Carnifex, Screamer-Killer
3 Biovores
3 Gargoyles
1 Haruspex
1 Malefactor
2 Raveners
4 Termagants
1 Zoanthrope

Bio-Titan Swarm
1 Hierophant

Genestealer Swarm
8 Genestealers
1 Broodlord

Nexus Swarm
1 Hive Tyrant
2 Tyranid Warriors
3 Carnifex
1 Gargoyle
3 Zoanthropes

Strike Swarm
1 Vituperator
2 Gargoyles
1 Malefactor
2 Hierodules, Scythed

6 Mycetic Spores
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Battlefield:

4x6
Orks chose corner deployment.

Deployment:

Orks had no garrisons.

Tyranids garrisoned the Genestealers and the Nexus Swarm well forward, with the Nexus Swarm placed on overwatch.

The Big Warband was deployed mounted in their Battlewagons.

Assault Swarm 1 was placed in transport with the Vituperator.

Remaining deployment as shown:
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Turn 1

No teleports.

Strategy Roll: Orks

Stompamob 2 stays put and sustains fire on the Nexus Swarm killing 1 Carnifex and 1 Zoanthrope.

The Nexus Swarm advances to get Stompamob 2 in range? and places a single Blast marker.

The Kult of Speed doubles over to flame the Nexus Swarm? and kills their Gargoyle.

Coming out of nowhere, the Genestealers engage the Kult of Speed in a firefight!

The Genestealers lose 4 broodmates, but the support of the Nexus Group takes out 2 Scorchers and the Tyranids manage a narrow win!

Irritated by this, the Fighta-Bommerz buzz down to hammer the Nexus swarm? to no effect.

The Attack Swarm marches forward to take cover in the ruins of the big x-shaped building.

The Deth Koptas also buzz forward, to engage? and eliminate, the Genestealers!

The Strike Swarm flaps forward on a double and disgorges Attack Swarm 1 and they all fire on the Deth Koptas, knocking one of them from the sky.

The Gargant double down the road, just getting the Strike Swarm and Attack Swarm 1 in range? and blows away a single Tyranid Warrior.

Attack Swarm 2 also flaps forward on a double to place a Blast marker on the Kult of Speed.

The Warband doubles down the road, dumps out the Boyz, and fires to little effect on the Strike Swarm.


The Hierophant doubles from cover to cover and fires on the Warband, trashing a Battlewagon.

Stompamob 1 doubles down the road to fire on the Strike Swarm, but they to do no damage.


End of Turn

Three Gargoyles are sacrificed to knock a single Fighta-Bommer out of the sky.

The Kult of Speed fails to rally for the Orks.

The Nexus Swarm uses a Spore to spawn back a Carnifex and 2 Gargoyles.
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Turn 2

No teleports.

Strategy Roll: Tyranids (on a tie!)

The Strike Swarm rushes forward to engage the Big Warband, with the support of the Hierophant.

The horrendous battle lasts for two rounds.  Each of the Tyranid war engines suffer 2DC in damage, but all that survives of the Orks is the Warboss and his Battlewagon which beat a hasty retreat down the road!

The Hierophant roars in admiration, but then sputters out as it fails to engage Stompamob 1? *sigh*

Stompamob 2 again sustains fire on the Nexus Swarm, backing 3 Carnifex and 2 Zoanthropes.


The Fighta-Bommerz strafe the weakened Nexus Group and kill the Hive Tyrant and 1 Tyranid Warrior.


Assault Swarm 1 engages the Blitz Brigade.  This battle also lasts two rounds? in which the Tyranids score a *single* hit, downing 1 Deth Kopta.  The Raveners are wiped out and the surviving Tyranid Warriors move for cover.

The Nexus Swarm also moves to engage the Blitz Brigade, with the support of the survivors of Assault Group 1.  Two Gargoyles go down, but the Orks lose 4 Deth Koptas and flee.


The Gargant attempts to sustain fire on the Strike Swarm? but the yells of the broken Warboss sound more like screams and the krew decides just to fire normally, killing 1 Hierodule.

Assault Swarm 2 doubles to fire on Stompamob 1.

Stompamob 1 sustains fire on the Strike swarm killing the Malefactor and doing another DC damage to the Vituperator.

The Attack Swarm fails to advance and just moves forward.

End of Turn:

The Kult of Speed rallies, but the Warboss and the Blitz Brigade fail.

The lone Warrior of the Nexus Swarm uses a Spore to spawn 2 Raveners.

Assault Swarm 1 uses a Spore to spawn a Carnifex and a Gargoyle.

The Vituperator fails to spawn, but does regenerate 1DC.
Author:  Chroma [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Turn 3

No teleports.

Strategy Roll: Orks

Stompamob 2 finally gets stuck in and engages Attack Swarm 1? the Supa-Stompa actually suffers 2DC damage, but only 2 Tyranid Warriors survive? but they stand their ground.


The Strike Swarm advances on Stompamob 1 and takes out a single Stompa.


The Hierophant also gets into the action, engaging Stompamob 1 in a firefight.  The Bio-Titan suffers 1DC damage, but the Stompas are wiped out.  The broken Supa-Stompa moves to base the Hierophant!


The Gargant follows up this kunning move by engaging the intermingled Strike Swarm and Hierophant.  It is a titanic clash; in the end the Gargant suffers 2DC of damage and *NOTHING* else has survived?  WAAAGH!


Assault Swarm 2 tries to engage Stompamob 2, but the death of the Vituperator has confused them so they just shoot, placing a Blast marker.

The Kult of Speed doubles against Assault Swarm 1, killing 1 Tyranid Warrior.

The Attack Swarm blows it again and fails to engage Stompamob 2?

The Fighta-Bommerz show up to ground attack the Nexus Swarm, but do no damage.

Seeing a gap in the enemy lines, the very small Nexus Swarm marches to just narrowly get the surviving Tyranid Warrior near the Ork Blitz?

End of Turn:

Orks 1 (BTS) vs Tyranids 2 (Blitz, TSNP)
Author:  Markconz [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:49 pm ]
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Pah a 'marching to the objective' victory rather than a good honest slaying of the enemy... :D

Great report though!  So what are your thoughts on the Gargoyle AA?
Author:  Lightbringer [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
Great report Chroma and close too! Suggests to me that we are getting there with the bugs! :)

I also would like your thoughts on the Gargoyle AA.

Lightbringer
:cool:
Author:  Pulsar [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
nice battle report, an intresting match up, thanks very much!
Author:  Chroma [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde
[quote="Markconz,Mar. 06 2007,21:49"]Pah a 'marching to the objective' victory rather than a good honest slaying of the enemy... :D
Well, if I'd failed that March activation, I think the Orks would've cleaned up in Turn 4... sometimes Bugs gotta be sneaky!
[quote]Great report though! ?So what are your thoughts on the Gargoyle AA?
Honestly, I loved it.  And my opponent thought it was very flavourful.

With swarms scattered about, the the 15cm AA coverage can actually wind up being quite extensive.  Even just putting Blast markers on squadrons or forcing the enemy off the wrong table edges makes it worth it.  You don't need to sacrifice a lot of Gargs to make them act as a deterrent.  Additionally, if all you're doing is respawning Gargoyles, you're not getting any other good stuff back.

I really liked it and would love to see more people try it out.
Author:  snotgun [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:04 am ]
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Quick question concerning your army list: As I'm currently painting 'nids myself and already see problems with my common broods (or lack thereof) I'm wondering how you managed to use so few units... I'm counting 5 + 3 + 2 Raveners, 4 + 3 + 1 Gargoyles, 8 + 4 TGaunts and no HGaunts - which should be 640 points of common broods... 640 * 4 equals 2560 which is considerably less than the played 3000 points (which would usually require 750 points of common broods to get to the required quarter). Am I missing something?
Author:  snotgun [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:48 am ]
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Heh, that makes sense. Thanks :)
Author:  Chroma [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  [BatRep] Swarm vs Horde

(snotgun @ Mar. 10 2007,09:48)
QUOTE
Heh, that makes sense. Thanks :)

Hey snotgun!  I always do my Tyranid unit purchases on a spreadsheet to keep the percentages right before I assign the Brood creatures to swarms, but good eyes none-the-less!   :cool:
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