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v6.2.2 - from a noob
Lightbringer	Post subject: v6.2.2 - from a noob Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:37 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:09 am Posts: 276	Hiya everyone I am new to the nids having played eldar in 40K and epic for many years. Having recently amassed a new bug force I am looking to take them to battle for the first time in the coming weeks. I have been following the WIP list(s) with interest but have to confess that there are a couple of things which from a newcomers perspective do not come across clearly. I thought it might be useful for me to share these observations at this stage both for my own benefit and that of other newcomers. First off is the wording of the section on synapse groups (T1.30) . The first sentence reads as follows; "Every swarm is controlled by a Synapse Group......" this is not strictly true and should be changed to ""Every brood swarm is controlled by a Synapse Group......" The next bit that is still not fully clear to a noob is the statement; "..made up of from one to three selections from the synapse creature list." Inserting an example at this point would be helpful, something like; "..for example a synapse group could consist of one harridan and two hive tyrants)   I also feel that the issue of coherency is a little fuzzy - the list states that the synapse groups are made up first and then the broods are added. Does this mean that each synapse group has to remain within coherency of the other synapse creatures in its group or - once the swarm moves the synapse creatures can move out of coherency from each other as long as they are within range of their broods? The final thing I think would be helpful to a noob is to add an appendix to the WIP list stating what figures should be used for what. For instance I note that people recommend using the GW Hierophant as a Hydraphant, the GW Hierodule as a Hierophant - but what to use for a Hierodule - or a ravener for that matter? I know this is a small thing but for somebody with no history of bugs its a tad messy. Anyhoo - hope this is of some use and keep up the good work! Can't wait to see my bugs chomp some Imperial armour!! Cheers Lightbringer _________________ Overseer Lightbringer II
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Jaldon

Post subject: v6.2.2 - from a noob Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:55 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:38 am Posts: 720 Location: Utah, pick a Pacific Island the other half of the year.

I am new to the nids having played eldar in 40K and epic for many years. Having recently amassed a new bug force I am looking to take them to battle for the first time in the coming weeks. Welcome to the Bug World, and eat hearty on genetic material First off is the wording of the section on synapse groups (T1.30) . The first sentence reads as follows; "Every swarm is controlled by a Synapse Group......" this is not strictly true and should be changed to ""Every brood swarm is controlled by a Synapse Group......"

Like the GT rules on deployment, if you only read the 1st paragraph of 6.1.6 you would think any formations could be placed off table in reserve. But taken in its entirety it quickly becomes obvious it isn't.

I think the same holds true here, T1.30 explains what is Synapse, and Independent, and Brood before diving into how they are orgainized, saying more would be redundant. That said I am not saying that they are perfect either, and I am always open to new ideas, but like 6.1.6 they have to be taken in their entirety.

The next bit that is still not fully clear to a noob is the statement;

"..made up of from one to three selections from the synapse creature list."


Yes an example here, and for a couple of other of the special rules, would be a very good idea and very helpful. I shall work on some.

I also feel that the issue of coherency is a little fuzzy - the list states that the synapse groups are made up first and then the broods are added. Does this mean that each synapse group has to remain within coherency of the other synapse creatures in its group or - once the swarm moves the synapse creatures can move out of coherency from each other as long as they are within range of their broods?


It is explained fully as...................................

"It must be understood that the Swarm is the formation, and that both the synapse creature group controlling it, and the brood creatures in it, are a single formation containing units."

thus no difference as they are just seperate units in the swarm not different formations within the swarm. Again an example would also help here.

The final thing I think would be helpful to a noob is to add an appendix to the WIP list stating what figures should be used for what. For instance I note that people recommend using the GW Hierophant as a Hydraphant, the GW Hierodule as a Hierophant - but what to use for a Hierodule - or a ravener for that matter? I know this is a small thing but for somebody with no history of bugs its a tad messy.


A tad messy when one considers there is no model for a Ravener (Except Maksims Ants which I did purchase to use for that purpose). As for the others again no true model is made for the Hydraphant and players have been setting their own conventions for each of these, and some others.

Soe guidance from the AC would probably be in order, but not critical ATM.

Anyhoo - hope this is of some use and keep up the good work! Can't wait to see my bugs chomp some Imperial armour!!


All views are of importance to me, even the ones I disagree with, as sometimes they make me think and look harder at an issue. I may not come away from that re-think with my mind changed, but sometimes I do, so keep it coming.

Good Luck and welcome to Bug World

Jaldon