The Tyranids ate them. If you have a GW publication that specifically says which Hive Fleet ate them then I invite you to share that information here.

Pretty sure as it was a tendril of Kraken. Can't remember where that was said though.

Ok, well a "first contact" nid list would be Hive Fleet Behemoth, or possibly named after Tyran Prime, the world where they were first encountered (and after which they were named).

Stuff that definitely shouldn't be in the list:

Tyrant Guard (evolved from space marine DNA, so not in a "first contact" list)
Biovore (evolved from Ork DNA, so not in a "first contact" list)

Stuff that probably shouldn't be in the list:

All the new units (Tervigon, Tyranofex, Harpy etc, though several of these are mentioned in the latest codex in the first contact)

Scythed/Barbed Hierodules: Instead have the larger bio-titan that 9.2.1 calls a Hydrophant. The name is made up.

Raveners were introduced later in rules-terms, but I don't know if they should be in or not, as they were retrofitted into the early encounters. Ditto Broodlords.

Other stuff to look at:

Zoanthropes are believed to have been improved by eldar DNA, though they existed before that. Possibly a stat change to make them weaker? Probably not synapse in a first contact list.

Genestealers are an interesting one; they were encountered long before any of the other nids, and weren't known to be nids until later. As advance scouts they should be in the list even though they're decended from human DNA - they'd been in the galaxy a while already.

Carnifex: only screamer killer varient, and only call it a screamer killer, as the carnifex name is a later addition.

Genestealer cult units would likely be included, as they were considered part of the main nid army in 2nd ed 40k (which is what I'd base the list on). Patriarchs, Magus, Hybrids and possibly even Blood Brothers with captured imperial tech.

The Biotanks (exocrine, haruspex etc) should probably be included.


This thread has a lot of good information: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=16913

I'd also recommend finding the nid lists from earlier versions of epic, and the 2nd edition 40k nid codex.

I think a lot more can be done to make this a distinct and interesting list than just taking 9.2.1 and cutting stuff out.

I get it guys, but re: my first post the list org. changes are forth-coming. I'll probably bump them up to number 2 instead of 3 since that seems to be what people are getting stuck on here, but I want to test the changes present before introducing even more.

You and your 'systematic approach' are no fun, Dave. Don't you know that the only way to determine cause and effect is to hold as many things as possible variable? The best approach is to change a whole bunch of stuff around and see what happens. Throw in a 1/4 gaunts rule, and make 'em fearless, I say.

Where do I post my squat teleporting skimmer landtrain list?

Sounds like someone is trying to stifle development.
Stop stifling!!
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viewtopic.php?f=86&t=19085&start=15

just coming to the defense of my list-developer friend in similar fashion...

You really are a troll dude. It has nothing to do with stifling as there was no development. It was a statement that the same list is being used with 2 omission of the rules.

You really need to get a life - if all you do on these lists is troll.

I thought another basis of scientific research is that there was a point conducting the research in the first place. I can't see the point of doing a list that's a more limited version of another list that already exists. Maybe for handicap matches?

My roll

just take up space on the thread?

honestly Matt, if you're going to slam someone for overreacting, at least check your spelling first