Just to ensure I'm on same page with everybody else:

1) can you combine synapse groups? Ie could I have hive tyrant and 3 tyranid warriors leading the swarm?
2) only BM help tyranids have as far as special rules go(apart from leader and such) is that brood units on swarms led by synapse creatures don't cause BM when destroyed. But tyranids can suffer BM from being under fire reducing their initiave to 3+ and so on?

Just so I won't screw up anything on Ropecon once I test them.

(oh and as side note once new stuff comes from mail I now have 5100 pts legal army. Dominatrix is also now nearly painted. Hurah! And getting very happy about the armour colour I have managed to get on my bio-titans)

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Yes, that's the "only" BM protection they get (it's pretty huge...)

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Well. It still means I can expect for opponents to have +2 assault resolutions for BM's on assaults they initiate. Should make tyranids much more bearable army to face(I know I hated the fact they didn't suffer BM's when I faced them).

Not that I don't agree it's good ability but just wanted to make sure tyranids aren't immune of shoot and assault combination like they used to be.

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No, they do still take BMs for coming under fire, which does, as you say, make them more bearable. It's still pretty much impossible to break them with shooting though.

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True. But I never could figure out how to beat them in assaults before

But good. I wouldn't enjoy playing tyranids as they used to be back when I faced them. Good to see they have progressed as far as they have. As it stands latest list feels pretty much "right" for me. Hopefully it's just small tweaks left to do.

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The list is certainly a lot more fun to play with and against these days, that's for sure. Though I personally still have a lot of issues with the list, I certainly aknowledge that it has come a long way.

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Regarding your first question, you cannot combine synapse groups. You allocate brood units to synapse groups. However, you can purchase 3 Tyranid Warriors and upgrade it with additional Tyranid Warriors, and/or a Hive Tyrant and some Zoanthropes.

/Fredmans

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That is correct; each "Synapse Group" forms the core of its own Synapse Swarm, but certain groups allow for several options so you can make a "Three Warriors and one Hive Tyrant" group.

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Right(I had actually missed entirely that replace tyranid warrior with hive tyrant option! Teaches me to read it better!). Well since I can get hive tyrant leading tyranid warriors means I don't need to combine anyway. I have feeling more small groups are better than few big ones(more activations, less of a problem if swarm loses synapses and they go to ground).

BTW also what counts as bio-titans for the 33%? Just hydraphant and hierophants? Or does either dominatrix or hierodules count toward it? I presume it's just hydraphant and hierophants which are listed as bio-titans but just double checking.

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The Dominatrix and Vituperator are also "Bio-Titans".

Still not sure that the Bio-Titan restriction is needed.

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Gosh! I really, really, REALLY need to read things better! How can I miss that bio-titan text right there!!!

Humhum. Well good to know just so I don't take illegal list in a some crazy "let's bring out biggest and baddest beasts I have to same list" army list Though that would either require smaller game or more models as I don't have enough bio-titans to break that limit in 3k list.

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The fact that you are considering Tyranid Warriors and Hive Tyrant means that you are going to have at least one big unit to protect the Synapses - most likley ravagers.

Make sure you protect that Dominatrix (maybe with a Hierodule or two), as that dying will be the BTS for your opponent

Cheers.....

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And as your opponent will most probably be engaging you in FF rather than CC (unless s/he is clearly insane) dont forget to take your Malefactors along for the ride - not only do they protect Hive Tyrants (AV, 5+RA) they also have 2 FF dice.

Which malefactors?-) Haven't got around sculpting one yet let alone making mould out of it and casting myself bunch of them. And I don't have cash to pay the prices they ask for in ebay.

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Not always the case

Not long ago I reported on the orks charging the nids and swamping the front ranks to force everything else on counter charge to use their FF value rather than CC as there was no room to move into BtB.

Charging the nids allows YOU to determine to a certain extent what gets into CC and what does not. The other way around is harder as many nids have a 40cm charge due to the infiltrate rule.

tneva82 : Too bad you do not have malefactors. They are awesome. You should consider the 'counts as' rule to try them out.

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