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The Termagaunt/Hormogaunt/Ravaner Terror
Chroma	Post subject: The Termagaunt/Hormogaunt/Ravaner Terror Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:41 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:06 pm Posts: 9684 Location: Montréal, QC, Canada	Quote (Tactica @ 16 Mar. 2006 (03:40)) No, you probably did to everyone else... I can just be a bit thick at times. No problemo!  I always enjoy having you in the debate! _________________ "EPIC: Total War" Lead Developer Now living in Boston... any EPIC players want to meet up?
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Markconz	Post subject: The Termagaunt/Hormogaunt/Ravaner Terror Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:30 am
Purestrain Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:43 pm Posts: 7925 Location: New Zealand	Quote (Hena @ 16 Mar. 2006 (03:41)) The very low amount of shooters in Tyranid list almost makes the no suppression bonus pointless. I wouldn't agree with this. No suppression means +2 to a heap of engage action resolutions, and no minus to activation. _________________ http://hordesofthings.blogspot.co.nz/
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ayoras	Post subject: The Termagaunt/Hormogaunt/Ravaner Terror Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:16 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:44 am Posts: 52	well, to finish about confrontation and X80 goblin marauders, sorry you're wrong Thurse. It is a legal formation in any tournament. Why players don't use it? Because it is a 'moral' contract between players I think. What is the satisfaction to win a tournament with an extreme army which is totally stupid, boring, unfair, known by everyone and against all the principles and the spirit of the game (even if it is not a 'shocking' army according to the background). Moreover, I remind you that there is solution against T Terror (it is not the case at confrontation with the goblin swarm). Now, I wonder why I react so much about the price of the termagaunts. At 15 pts (at least with infiltrator no?), we come back to the previous version, why not. Though, I'm not sure that a T/H Terror with 120 hor/termagaunts (instead of 180) won't be still a very potent army (maybe still the most powerfull nid army). As I already say, you can't avoid it in a swarmy army. The list with an infinite number of little unpotent bugs is always the best army of the entire game (whatever the game). No need to act against, you can't. The only manner you have (except 'limit the number of lesser bugs you can take', which is a very anti-background solution) is to increase the price of the little. Nevertheless, if you do this too much, you totally denature your army and your army becomes a bad army. Keep termagaunts at 15 pts ok no problemo. In fact it is not especially this action who make me crazy, it is the drop of the X2 warriors as thurse guessed. The main problem with only X3 warriors is the options you have in a 3000 pts game. You must choose between a ridiculous low number of activation with an harridan or a vituperator OR a normal (between 7 to 9) number of activation with only tyrans and warriors. I find it too restrictive. I think taking a big synapse shouldn't be a problem in a 3000 pts game and shouldn't drastically handicap you (the number of activation is an important advantage in the game I find). I don't think (but not test) that if you take 10 warriorsX2 and some independants it is unbalanced. Indeed you will have a large amount of activation (well an insane number of activations), but it leaves to you only fiew points to make real effectives swarms. Ok I speak without test it, it is true, but it is more than a feeling. I think you will have a lot of difficulties to change my mind about this point. PS : X2 warriors don't allows you to create very cheap activation. Ok you can make only a X2 warriors activation for 100 pts, but it is already the case. Your activation wil cost at least 200 pts and for this price you will have not especially an efficient activation (it is an understatement ^^). _________________
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ayoras	Post subject: The Termagaunt/Hormogaunt/Ravaner Terror Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:08 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:44 am Posts: 52	And 30 point Lesser Synapse Node. O_O hum I hope it is a mistake I don't accept that if another game has a problem with its balance, that EA should accept problems with balance as well.

well, It was just an exemple. I think the problem is the same with ALL games which include swarmy army. As I said, you can't act against it without increase the price of the littles and so you loose the "swarmy" aspect. I think that TTerror with 120 models is still an insane army.

I would think that no infiltrator to termagants.
Well before you decrease the cost of the termagaunts, they have infiltrator. You purpose a lesser efficient version than before? Why? Before the decrease, nobody spoke about the balance of the termagaunts...

And nodes won't help to move my gaunts correctly, except if they cost 30 and I do they "rain of lesser nodes" tactic (another stupid abuse...), but we already solve this  increasing the cost of the node.

One more time, X2 warriors don't allow you cheap activation, it allows you to have 'normal' activation (250-350). Moreover, it allows you to take a big synapse, with only X3 warriors, you can't (in a reasonnable army list).