Just a question on the SC re-roll, can this be used on the spawning roll??

(5A) We cannot go back to the old system of rolling dice for each swarms spawning, it IS too much of a drag on speed of play, too much.

Hena the SC and Rally question has been posted on the Specialist Games Forum so the entire ERC can take shots at it.

The SC rule states Initiative Test and the Rally section only says Rally Test not Initiative Test. Further Initiative Tests are taken during the Action Phase while Rally Tests are taken during the End Phase.

This could lead to others drawing the same conclusion and may need to be clarified in the FAQs, hence let the ERC weigh in.

Ok so rolling dice for each swarm, doing the add/subtract for each swarm, is faster then doing one roll for the entire army and adding and subtracting for each swarm?

We just roll the 2D3, and after the roll turn one dice to the full value and the second to the halved value (They are different colors so we do not have to think too much, really)

Then the swarms either get the 1/2 value dice or the full value dice added to their spawning value.

Hit me over the head with a rock but how can rolling dice for each swarm and then doing the math be faster then rolling one result for all the swarms and then doing the math?

Ok v9 has Brood Values and Spawn Values for each unit and so does the v8 version.

In v9 you roll once to set the entire Base Spawn Value for the entire army using either the halved total or the full total (As I said above using two different colored dice to note each makes it a lot easier to perform). Then the base spawn value is added to each swarm's spawning points, units are then bought and placed for each swarm.

In v8 you rolled a variable number of dice for each swarm, adding dice as defined under the modifiers, then rolled the dice added the results of that roll, then bought and placed units for each swarm.

The only difference I see is in the former you only have to roll once, while in the latter you have to roll dice and count them up for each swarm. I see no savings in math calculations in this latter system in the least, in fact it seems to be more.

In our playtest games using both systems we could not find a way to make the former faster, while we had no trouble figuring out how to make the latter faster. No complaints from the group here over the weekend, or in previous games using v9 concerning speed of spawning, in fact the exact opposite!

Sorry all but I fail to see how rolling more dice and doing more adding up of dice, along with buying/placing creatures, can be faster then only having to roll once, apply no modifiers, add up spawn points, and just then buy/place units.

I guess you will all have to call me stupid, because I don't see it in word, and I definitely haven't seen it in battle on the table top.

Jaldon