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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:44 am  |  | 
		
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					| When the idea for 2 strong warrior broods was first introduced I was estactic, the idea of slightly reinforcing infantry synapse to withstand synapse wilt filled me with excitment.  I was soon busy designing armies with infantry broods lead by 4 or 5 warriors (the points saved allowing me an extra tyrant).  However I managed to miss the abuse that 2 strang formations could give.
 Despite this I think that being able to have a variable brood size is important, so what about saying that warrior broods are 3-5 strong?
 
 This way they can be a fluid size formation (with a maximum of 15 stands, so it might still be open to abuse)
 
 Also, is there any chance of us getting winged warriors?
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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:26 pm  |  | 
		
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					| Perhaps of more use in larger games.  Or in a campaign where the Nid opponents have much increased the number of snipers they field.This way they can be a fluid size formation (with a maximum of 15 stands, so it might still be open to abuse)
 |  What kind of abuse might this cause?
 
 
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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:33 pm  |  | 
		
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					| I'm not sure if this has changed, but can you have up to three Synapse Creature groups together per Synapse swarm?
 So that allows 3, 6, or 9 Warrior groups, or a Tyrant with 3 Warriors, etc.
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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:52 pm  |  | 
		
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					| | Quote (clausewitz @ 31 Mar. 2006 (16:26)) |  | This way they can be a fluid size formation (with a maximum of 15 stands, so it might still be open to abuse) | 
 What kind of abuse might  this cause? |  I...don't...know
   
 When I was writing it I had a sudden thought that a swarm of 15 warriors might be abusable.  Though thinking back on it I'm not sure how.  It is 750pts of synpase, so would only be a poblem in large games.
 
 I think the main concern I thought there could be was the synaptic front that a line of warriors could make.  Though thinking about it, that many synpase creatures working as a single swarm is likely to be more of a hinderance to the nid player, with it accidentaly picking up brood creatures from other swarms.
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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:30 pm  |  | 
		
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					| Witha  swarm size of 70 or 80 it could fairly safely engage two or even three enemy formations at once. Ad a couple of LSNs to spawn to replace lost numbers and you have a potentialy unstoppable steam roller. It has no one point of weakness with that many synapse, and it will pretty much crush anything it contacts. Largest tactical problem you would face would be bothering to stand up when it was your turn cos it would be so boring to play.... 
 Might make a good opponent for a single player game though:  Can the imperial guard stop the tyranid steam roller before their convoy can escape the table or something...
 
 
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					|  Post subject: Warrior broods variable brood size idea  Posted:  Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:51 am  |  | 
		
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					| With a  swarm size of 70 or 80 it could fairly safely engage two or even three enemy formations at once. |  
 Only if those enemy formations are intermingled, otherwise the swarm would be limited to engaging a single enemy formation.
 
 As of this moment the 2xTyranid Warrior Synapse Group is going to be dropped from the Army list. It is nice but just too open for abuse. For the time being I am considering adding it as a possible upgrade being "Add 1 to 2 Tyranid Warriors to a Synapse Group 50pts each."
 
 I am going to mull over the "3 to 5 Tyranid Warriors for 50pts each" as it is an interesting alterantive.
 
 Thanks All
 
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