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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp  Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:18 pm |
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| Quote (primarch @ 12 2004 Feb.,20:15) | What would people like as a prize?
I'll take requests. |
Can I have a full size 1-1 scale Land Raider please (with working lascannons).
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Tas
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:11 am |
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| Quote (kr00za @ 13 2004 Feb.,08:03) | Hi
How about a "best conversion" section this time?
That why such entries could be judged on the "modeling skills" involved in the peice and not the painting "though oviously any entries into such a catogory should be fully painted" |
A conversion category can certainyl be done- the problem become
(a)ensuring all areas get sufficient entries, and
(b)getting prizes for all categories.
I think 5 areas was good last time, maybe 6 is doable, but probably not more.
Primarch- how about one of the smaller Tau packs?
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:41 am |
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My worry of a conversion catagory is that it would hold a lot of the entries (& possible top runners) out of other catagories. It is that reason that they dont to a conversion specific catagory at the GDs.
Where do you draw the line for a converted miniature in the "normal" catagories or it qualifying for the conversion catagory?
How can you stop people being influenced by a converted model if they're supposed to judge 100% on the paintjob in all other catagories?
Similarly, judging a conversion will be biased towards the better painted as it normally highlights the detail work far better.
Just throwing some Questions into the mix before we run into them later & its too late 
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:18 pm |
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I was thinking the same thing. It would force people to decide whether they would enter a mini into the conversion category, and to hell with the paint job. I also considered having a seperate one-off prize. Something similar to the Forge World prize at GD events where the 'judges' (or winner of the previous year) nominated a single mini, irrespective of whether it won another category or not, as 'best conversion'.
This would remove the worry of the contenders as to what to do with their mini, but would also encourage converting across the entire comp.
What do you think?
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TuffSkull
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:44 pm |
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| Quote (CyberShadow @ 14 2004 Feb.,12:18) | | What do you think? |
*ding ding ding ding*
We have a winner....
well, IMHO at least - this sounds like the best way to do it. Maybe have a committee vote from the last years winners, or the competition organisers & give out a special prize which can go to any entry in any catagory, as you say, just like the FW and SG awards at GD._________________ Cheers, Paul "TuffSkull" T. http://hobbybrush.com - My New Website, with thousands of painted Mini Pics :) http://hobbybrush.blogspot.com - My Hobby Blog TuffSkull's notepad- My Old Blog on Wargames Wiki.
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:29 am |
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An excellent solution, nice one CS! 
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:21 am |
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Of course the REAL challenge is to write that up as a Competition Rule, then defend it in answering a number of hostile emails and why "such and such" got listed with "this and that".
You should have seen some of the emails I got last year.... 
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:49 pm |
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a clarification in tthe number of model one can submit in a category would be good, as well as a beter definition of some categories; in particular, i think some restriction about the battleforce category would be good; something like "a legal 1000+Pts force , made of at least 10 models, of the army of your choice" would be good; i think this section should be for an army painted to a good standard (which is quite more work than a single unit). I would like to present an army, but would feel disadvantaged if competiting with a single formation...
I also hesitate about the single unit category. at epic size, maybe a single fromation category would be good ?
As a single unit cat is still very appealing (the "comanding stand contest" being quite a pleasing chalenge for example), i can see it would require a new cat, which would mabye be hard to do... but Epic mini quality is never more striking than in number, and i would have love to see the whole formation of some "standard unit" we've seen last year.
Maybe this could make a "Comanding unit" category, and a "single formation" category ?
I very much like the CS proposition for special conversion prize; about those, i thought that maybe it would be possible to get in touch with Jervis and get a publication of the best mini in each category in Fanatic mag ?
What would you think ?
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:18 pm |
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Post subject: 2004 Painting Comp Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:32 pm |
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| Quote (Athmos @ 16 2004 Feb.,05:49) | | i think some restriction about the battleforce category would be good; something like "a legal 1000+Pts force , made of at least 10 models, of the army of your choice" |
Thanks for your comments Athmos.
If you have a look back in the threads for how the rules were composed, this sort of thing was specifically avoided, because many people here play many different versions of rules (including hybrids and homegrowns).
I thus made a deliberate decision (after contemplation) not to mention points values to not EA-ify (or any rules version-ify!)the Comp entries
I also hesitate about the single unit category. at epic size, maybe a single fromation category would be good ?
As a single unit cat is still very appealing (the "comanding stand contest" being quite a pleasing chalenge for example), i can see it would require a new cat, which would mabye be hard to do... but Epic mini quality is never more striking than in number, and i would have love to see the whole formation of some "standard unit" we've seen last year.
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Your points are good ones, but again were not implemented for the reasons that people dont usually do many stands to that level, and if they do then there were other categories available. This one was the show off for those individual stands which people spend hours lavishing attention on.
Your single formation cartegory proiposal is a good one though- and again comes around to the balance of catagories and types vs entrants and prizes.
Thanks very much for your input- its greatly appeciated, if even to rehash old arguments and ensure their non inclusion last year are still for valid reasons.
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