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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:43 pm 
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Great ! Give it a shot !

btw - Tappatalk mobile phone app (which is what i mainly use nowadays) doesn't show it or even really flag up that there is a poll at all! Not sure if this is a reason you are getting limited votes ? but i only just realized your topics are polls! I've gone and voted now on your instruction :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:20 am 
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I think crowdfunding type ideas, run however are a good idea. Eureka did it with their 300 club for many years, and look at all the crazy stuff they generated. Give it a shot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:37 am 
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Not sure what questions you refer to and blips post makes me think there is supposed to be a poll? I too use Tapatalk... it's just I am on holiday and haven't been on a lot recently.

Blip is right about my post, I mean exactly what I wrote and nothing more. So I am sincere in that I am in no way questioning your intentions, that would be ridiculous. And I don't think the majority of buyers would naturally distrust a seller either - it's not really about that, it's about creating an environment that encourages people to part with their cash NOW rather than just wait for others to put up theirs. I personally would have no worries about putting up cash for pre orders and have encouraged exactly that model before (eg to deacon when he first got going). But remember you are selling to strangers on the internet, and it simply makes sense to make it clear to people what, from what you say in your most recent posts, you planned to do anyway. It's not that you'd be reassuring them of your personal honesty, you're reassuring them that you've thought about the eventualities where things don't go to plan. I can think of so many reasons why a model might end up not getting made, none of them to do with any nefarious intent.

As for the lack of I interest, I can't really say either way but of course there is only one way to know for sure. What I would say is, nobody is as invested as you are. You will have a core of dedicated supporters but
people generally support something if it gets them what they want, not to help you out ;) Those people will engage when there are actual models to ore order and not before. So run some model ideas up the flagpole and see what sticks?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:52 am 
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I'd definitely preorder things once in a while - I have a definite need (well, craving) for Jackal stalkers and modular trucks, for instance, and would be happy to further them towards production.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:57 am 
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why don't you do an official poll about crowdfunding, you will get a clear answer then, many people will be interested like myself but never bother to comment.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:13 pm 
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Taker of Skulls wrote:
why don't you do an official poll about crowdfunding, you will get a clear answer then, many people will be interested like myself but never bother to comment.

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Ok then another poll it is.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:24 pm 
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Just launch the thing on your site. You'll figure out soon enough whether people will go for it or not.:) don't overload people with additional polls and what not.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:26 pm 
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To late the poll is up, vanguard is customer driven so I need to know what the customer wants.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:47 pm 
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John, Ive just been catching up on here today after a another manic week. Mate, honestly, you do a stirling job with Vanguard, the idea for a pre order system is great. After all the hard work you've put into getting the designs to this point you need to go ahead with the pre order system. I for one know how trustworthy you are and how committed to Vanguard and the community you are. For what its worth to readers I can personally vouch for your honesty and integrity and I will be putting money into these new ranges and always more than happy to entrust money with you until models are released for sale.
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John, Ive just been catching up on here today after a another manic week. Mate, honestly, you do a stirling job with Vanguard, the idea for a pre order system is great. After all the hard work you've put into getting the designs to this point you need to go ahead with the pre order system. I for one know how trustworthy you are and how committed to Vanguard and the community you are. For what its worth to readers I can personally vouch for your honesty and integrity and I will be putting money into these new ranges and always more than happy to entrust money with you until models are released for sale.
Keep up with the great work mate


Mate what can I say thanks for your post and show of support for my little company and project i'm truly grateful for your words.

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I have been travelling for several weeks straight and missed the change to Pre-Order. I am honestly good with however we can encourage you to keep new models coming.

Pre-order and pre-funding both are fine in my book!.

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I have been travelling for several weeks straight and missed the change to Pre-Order. I am honestly good with however we can encourage you to keep new models coming.

Pre-order and pre-funding both are fine in my book!.


I have abandoned the pre-order funding project as it was just causing to much uncertainty instead I will be launching a separate regular pre-orders page on my site. All models on that page will be at a certain stage in the production process either at the 3D printers or at the mould making stage readying for production.

This set up will assuage any worry for the customer that they won't get their models as they will already be heading towards production. There was much concern with the funder idea that backers may not see their models if the funding level was not achieved whilst this would not have been the case as I would have guaranteed delivery it was none the less a big stumbling block for some people. Hence the change of plan and having a normal pre-order set up instead.

All models up for pre-order will see production and will be shipped to customers at the earliest opportunity upon arrival of the actual casting. Over all from pre-order's stage to castings on the shelves should be around two months maybe a little more. This is due to the multiple stages required to get the actual models which apart from the 3D design stage also includes being in a average of a four weeks queue for printing and another four to six weeks queue for moulding and casting plus travelling time of the items. So two months is probably going to be the shortest time between pre-orders and shipments to customers.

Two other things here are,

1. All pre-orders are required to be done as separate orders from regular in stock item orders for paperwork and shipping charges reasons. So please don't pre-order anything in with a regular order.

2. The prices quoted for pre-orders will be subject to change once the models go on general sale. All prices shown are a best guess based on current similar models in the range as until I get them moulded I have no solid costs per mould spin to base my figures on. So the price of these models may well go up upon release or they could go down slightly too it will depend on production castings charges.

So there you have it plan B what do you think?

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Whatever works for you to get the models out works for me, bud!

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Whatever works for you to get the models out works for me, bud!


Roger that buddy hopefully the page will be up and running this week coming.

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jimmyzimms wrote:
Whatever works for you to get the models out works for me, bud!


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