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Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
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Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Updated for most recent version of the formula (V0.46)
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[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: _________ 9 ____ 0 ___ -41
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 52 ____ 0 ___ +27
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 15 ___ +8 ___ -10
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 55 ____ 0 ___ -30
Doom Burner [R,L]: ______ 83 ____ 0 ___ +18
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 52 __ +18 ____ +2
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 52 __ +20 ____ +2
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 90 ____ 0 ___ +40
Hellblade [H]: __________ 23 ____ 0 ____ -2
Hellblade [R]: __________ 23 ___ +7 ____ -2
Hellblade [L]: __________ 23 __ +12 ____ -2
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 56 ____ 0 __ ?? not listed
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 12 ___ +4 ___ -38
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Seems I missed a few last time. Here is the list with entries for all six (A through F) cost plans.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Values for Plan: _______ A __ B ___ C __ D ___ E __ F
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: ________ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 10 _ 10 __ 10 _ 10 __ 45 _ 45
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20
Doom Burner [R,L]: _____ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 80 _ 50
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 80 _ 50
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 65 _ 65 __ 30 _ 30 __ 65 _ 30
Hellblade [H]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 80 _ 80
Hellblade [R]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 75 _ 75
Hellblade [L]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 70 _ 70
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5 __ 30 _ 25
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Adjusted the CAF values by removing the "Model Type" value.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Values for Plan: _______ A __ B ___ C __ D ___ E __ F
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: ________ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 10 _ 10 __ 10 _ 10 ___ 5 __ 5
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20
Doom Burner [R,L]: _____ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 65 _ 65 __ 30 _ 30 __ 65 _ 30
Hellblade [H]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 20 _ 20
Hellblade [R]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15
Hellblade [L]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 10 _ 10
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Updated for tweak2.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: _________ 7
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 38
Chaos Tail [L]: __________ 7
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 40
Doom Burner [R,L]: ______ 60
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 26
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 24
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 48
Hellblade [H]: __________ 20
Hellblade [R]: __________ 13
Hellblade [L]: __________ 10
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 60
Khorne Tail [L]: _________ 7

Edit: updated Tail values
Author:  primarch [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Hi!

Chaos tail has a value of "-2", is this correct? Or should it be "zero"?

Primarch
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Ooh, good catch. Actually, both the Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail values are wrong. It appears I forgot to again remove the model type value when I updated the basic formula for those two.

The correct value for Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail is 7.

I just had a thought that I should work out the values for the Chaos Titan weapons for the Titan having a Fire Control Center or a Command Head. I'll look into that at a later time.
Author:  primarch [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
MagnusIlluminus wrote:
Ooh, good catch. Actually, both the Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail values are wrong. It appears I forgot to again remove the model type value when I updated the basic formula for those two.

The correct value for Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail is 7.

I just had a thought that I should work out the values for the Chaos Titan weapons for the Titan having a Fire Control Center or a Command Head. I'll look into that at a later time.


Hi!

I'm going over everything in preparation for constructing the gold pdf file, so I will post in the appropriate thread anything I have a question about.

Thanks!

Primarch
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Sat May 02, 2015 1:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
OP updated.
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Sun May 17, 2015 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
OP updated.
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
OP updated for V0.33
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
I just noticed a thing. I'm looking at the Chaos Titan Hit Locations for converting them to the new hit locations cost system and I've noticed that all of the Warlord - based named Titans still have Reactor locations in their Front arc. Weren't these going to be changed, as the Imperial ones were? Or were these intentionally left this way?

I suppose leaving them this way might be reasonable, especially since they will soon (I expect) be able to gain Rewards and Mutations to help them survive.
Author:  primarch [ Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
MagnusIlluminus wrote:
I just noticed a thing. I'm looking at the Chaos Titan Hit Locations for converting them to the new hit locations cost system and I've noticed that all of the Warlord - based named Titans still have Reactor locations in their Front arc. Weren't these going to be changed, as the Imperial ones were? Or were these intentionally left this way?

I suppose leaving them this way might be reasonable, especially since they will soon (I expect) be able to gain Rewards and Mutations to help them survive.


Hi!

That is an omission on my part. Base calculations on not having the reactor in the front arc.

Primarch
Author:  primarch [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
Hi!

Solid!

Primarch
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
OP updated for V0.41

Chaos Titan Weapons had been valued as Special Formation.
Author:  MagnusIlluminus [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
OP updated for V0.42
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