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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:22 am 
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Question for all the NetEpic players out there .
What size base do you prefer? for playing NetEpic and why?


I have been playing EA since it replaced second Ed and I'm just now getting around to trying NetEpic
And I don't know which will be the best base for the rule set, I want to up date my two favorite army's to NetEpic style bases , here is a photo of the base styles I have seen on TacCom and on other sites.
The SM base is 20mm next is a 25mm round , a 25 hex the others are a 30mm FoW base and a 30mm wood base. Not sure if I forgot any? I'm trying to get away from the GW 1.5 x40mm bases I have skip loads of SM 20mm bases but you can't see the figures that well and not as keen on the as I use to be. I would love some feed back, thanks. ;D


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:11 pm 
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I still use the old square bases for pretty much everything out of habit and for nostalgia and I'm unlikely to change. That being said, I would prefer the old bases were just a little but bigger.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Hi!

Nice to see someone giving NetEpic a go, hope you enjoy it! I'm sure you'll find it very similar to 2nd Edition Epic as it is based on that system but with a few community fixes. As an EA player, you may be interested in my Net Epic Evolution ruleset which turns NetEpic into an activation based game but uses the existing 2nd Edition armies, stats and most rules. Sorry for the shameless plug! :-[

Anyway, back to the original point of this thread... Like DS I still use the old square GW bases as pictured on the back left of your pic. The reason all my armies are like this is that I bought most of them back in the days of 1st & 2nd edition when these bases were the only ones available for Epic. Because my collection is so large I have no inclination to change them! I'd agree that some of the other styles are prettier to look like, although what I really love about the old bases is the effect you get when you take an army shot! They look great grouped en masse!

From a rules perspective I don't think there is anything that would make using one base over another problematic so I think you should choose whichever you best prefer. In fact, if you already have large armies I would just use them as they are, it'll save you a lot of time and hassle!

For what it's worth, when given the choices shown above, I would choose either the hex or the squarish base on the front row...

Please keep us posted on this project and your experiences with NetEpic! :)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:35 pm 
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I use a mixture of bases, both the square bases and the rectangular bases, but I use square bases in the majority of cases, certainly for my standard sized Eldar, Chaos, and Ork armies, because I prefer them. The rectangular bases usually only get an outing with units which I purchased later in life, or when I'm playing a very large battle, and require some extra formations.

The square bases are a better fit for the old SM2 buildings, and I find them more aesthetically pleasing. There are some minor advantages and disadvantages in terms of the rules for each base size, but so far as I recall, they're so minute, it's not worth worrying about.

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Hi!

Due to some of my projects I have come up to the same question. My solution was along the lines Dwarf Supreme suggested.

Use square bases, but larger 25mm ones. The models fit better, there is more space to adorn the bases and 25mm are super cheap and easy to obtain. :)

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Thank you all for your opinions so far, I was not sure if there was a right or wrong way to do it, It seams its up to the individual and what they feel works best for them... I will still need to ponder the choice , this is hard I cant finish my favorite army till I do so :( I want to re-base my Legion of the Damned , but what to base it on .
I'm not liking the Epic 40k bases any more almost all of my armies have the second Ed bases except 2 armies are based on the SM square base , and i think its time for a chance !


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Selim Wormrider wrote:
Thank you all for your opinions so far, I was not sure if there was a right or wrong way to do it, It seams its up to the individual and what they feel works best for them... I will still need to ponder the choice , this is hard I cant finish my favorite army till I do so :( I want to re-base my Legion of the Damned , but what to base it on .
I'm not liking the Epic 40k bases any more almost all of my armies have the second Ed bases except 2 armies are based on the SM square base , and i think its time for a chance !


Hi!

Those rectangular double rowed bases look great!

I thought about using them, but most of my stuff is square, so I kept using those. :)

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Great army! Love the flame effects on the vehicles! Are these old school Dark Angels?

And definitely, there's no wrong way to base your infantry, just go with your personal preference!

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Pretty much anything is fine for bases in epic as long as you don't take the mick. I am using 25mm rounds from Fenris games and I have seen people using ovals, pentagons, hexagons and others, it all depends on what you like the look of.


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Great army! Love the flame effects on the vehicles! Are these old school Dark Angels?

And definitely, there's no wrong way to base your infantry, just go with your personal preference!


No Bissler it's my Legion of the Damned army hence my reluctance to have them on a subpar base lol not a lot of people do a Legion of the Damned marine army but I love the fluff and the sex appeal of the black and skull with flames ;D it really fits wit. My. MO lol ;D

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Hi!

Those rectangular double rowed bases look great!

I thought about using them, but most of my stuff is square, so I kept using those. :)

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Hey primarch I assume you ment the metal bases on the LoD SM. I got those from a historical game company that does 15mm minis , they usually use a 15 x40x base for rank and file troops.
It's great with rows of spear men like the Hoplite army I have for FoG.
But I really want my men to have a tighter formation also to look better .

So the only thing I have found that the long epic 40k bases are good for, is spreading out in trenches and defensive prepared positions. This is how my Imp Guard are based and that looks right to me cus I think a military would adopt that sort of fanned out rank and file standing position. So they will say as they are. But I believe that because Space Marines are armored super humans they can have a tighter formation. They would suffer as much from a grande or shrapnel in tight quarters , unlike there lesser armored brethren the IG.
I know that's sill and not a factor in the game but it's more about believability for me.
Any thoughts on that?

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primarch wrote:

Hi!

Those rectangular double rowed bases look great!

I thought about using them, but most of my stuff is square, so I kept using those. :)

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Hey primarch I assume you ment the metal bases on the LoD SM. I got those from a historical game company that does 15mm minis , they usually use a 15 x40x base for rank and file troops.
It's great with rows of spear men like the Hoplite army I have for FoG.
But I really want my men to have a tighter formation also to look better .

So the only thing I have found that the long epic 40k bases are good for, is spreading out in trenches and defensive prepared positions. This is how my Imp Guard are based and that looks right to me cus I think a military would adopt that sort of fanned out rank and file standing position. So they will say as they are. But I believe that because Space Marines are armored super humans they can have a tighter formation. They would suffer as much from a grande or shrapnel in tight quarters , unlike there lesser armored brethren the IG.
I know that's sill and not a factor in the game but it's more about believability for me.
Any thoughts on that?



Hi!

You know, I never thought of that in that way before. :)

I think you are right and that those strip base are indeed a good fit for units defending a trench or wall position. It would seem to be a natural formation for defense.

An interesting refreshing perspective. :)

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Hi!

You know, I never thought of that in that way before. :)

I think you are right and that those strip base are indeed a good fit for units defending a trench or wall position. It would seem to be a natural formation for defense.

An interesting refreshing perspective. :)

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Thanks , I have a similar approach with sentinel's in EA deployment, scouts deploy first , I like to places the sentinels in front of the trench lines as far out as is aloud by rules and other circumstances, then fan them out as far apart as allowed I believe it is 20cm for vehicles and 15cm coherence for troops! Even on the square 20mm base that's still a good part of the board. I find this tactic works good for forcing the opponents deployment back to there side more giving my Guard more time to get armour in place. The troops are usually garrisoned so they can be deployed to the trenches or objectives, I use this same approach with snipers the long bases allow for more ground spread out forcing a nice zone of control around an objective or good defensive position.

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Hopefully this set up I have done showcases what we were talking about.
The back row will represent SM scouts on 20 square SM bases, the middle row Imp Guard snipers on the epic 40k second Ed bases, and the Front row IG Sentinel scouts on the 20mm SM bases as you can see there is a slight advantage to the second Ed stands they reach farther than the old SM bases. I have set the troops both at 15cm apart and the sentinels at 20 cm apart. The second ed bases will cover more ground with the same amount of troops, I find this works best for hoard armies that can soak up hits for good stay power, or you will just loose that defensive poison with less men in one round of good shooting. Any way just thought I'd throw that out there, case it was not obvious to most about the base size and coverage distance ? ;D


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