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Author: | Jake Strangeway [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
Hello again ![]() So, here is the text from the Vibro Cannon: Vibro-Cannon: This is a smaller version of the Titan Tremor Cannon, placed on a small anti-grav platform for mobility. When a vibro-cannon fires, draw an imaginary line (2 cm wide) from the cannon to the target (this may be direct or spotted). Any buildings along this line are destroyed if they fail a basic save at -3. The actual target is hit on a 5+ and any troop stands or vehicles along the line are hit on 6+. If one vibro-cannon hits the target the TSM is 0, if two hit the TSM is –1 and if three lines cross the TSM is –2. Separate detachments that fire at the same target do not add in this way. The attack ignores shields and any target that uses a template is hit on a leg or track location. And here is the Unicorn: Unicorn: Striking quickly deep into the enemy’s ranks is the essence of the Eldar way of war. To this end the Unicorn was built as a direct response to the perceived slowness of the Vibro-Cannon. The Unicorn is a modification of the normal Falcon hull, mounting a Vibro-Cannon on its main axis. When a vibro-cannon fires, draw an imaginary line (2 cm wide) from the cannon to the target (this may be direct or spotted by a command unit). Any buildings along this line are destroyed if they fail a basic save. The actual target is hit on a 5+ and any troop stands or vehicles along the line are hit on 6+. If one vibro-cannon hits the target the TSM is 0, if two hit the TSM is –1 and if three lines cross the TSM is –2. Separate detachments that fire at the same target do not add in this way. The attack ignores shields and any target that uses a template is hit on a leg or track location. Several questions: 1) Why does the Vibro Cannon on the ground mount make the building make a save at a -3, while the Vibro Cannon on the Unicorn mount make the building have a basic save? 2) Since there are only 2 Unicorns in a detachment, and separate detachments do not add in to the TSM, how can 2 unicorns cause 3 lines to cross? 3) Why does the Vibro Cannon need to have a unit spotted by a "unit", while the Unicorn says a "command unit"? 4) Do we infer that if the Vibro Cannon (on either mount) is firing at a spotted unit, then it deviates as other artillery? Thank you, Jake |
Author: | scream [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
Jake Strangeway wrote: Several questions: 1) Why does the Vibro Cannon on the ground mount make the building make a save at a -3, while the Vibro Cannon on the Unicorn mount make the building have a basic save? 2) Since there are only 2 Unicorns in a detachment, and separate detachments do not add in to the TSM, how can 2 unicorns cause 3 lines to cross? 3) Why does the Vibro Cannon need to have a unit spotted by a "unit", while the Unicorn says a "command unit"? 4) Do we infer that if the Vibro Cannon (on either mount) is firing at a spotted unit, then it deviates as other artillery? 1) maybe a typo 2) unmodified copy-past when copying vibro cannon description into unicorn description 3) typo 4) yes |
Author: | Jake Strangeway [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
Thanks - so, with this particular case, we should treat amend the Unicorn so that it reads exactly like the Vibro Cannon? |
Author: | praetorgradivus [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
In the original rule, where two or more beams fired from the same battery cross any model it was hit automatically. The net epic description for neither the vibrocannon nor the unicorn include this. Is this an oversight as the Titan weapon still includes it? |
Author: | scream [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
praetorgradivus wrote: In the original rule, where two or more beams fired from the same battery cross any model it was hit automatically. The net epic description for neither the vibrocannon nor the unicorn include this. Is this an oversight as the Titan weapon still includes it? Imho, this was removed for balancing purpose, to avoid making the 100 points vibro cannon units being some "auto-hit+ignore shield" titan killers. |
Author: | praetorgradivus [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
Imho, this was removed for balancing purpose, to avoid making the 100 points vibro cannon units being some "auto-hit+ignore shield" titan killers.[/quote] since it only hits the lowest box...it's more of a titan imobilizer rather than a titan killer as most titans only have a 1 in 6 chance of being destroyed by leg damage if they fail thier armor save. |
Author: | zap123 [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vibro Cannon and Unicorn |
Gargant - Gutbuster.....boom. |
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