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Author: | ulric [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:22 am ] |
Post subject: | IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
does anyone created Netepic stats for those pretty nice models? |
Author: | scream [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
I do not remember if Duz.Holger (or a closed pseudo) made some profiles for his DKOK list. Else, something close to standard SHT: move: 10cm save: 2+ CAF: +5 side sponsos: PD(2) or PD(4) front dual guns: 1x 50cm/1/5+/-2 or 2x50cm/1/5+/-1 for turrets: - twice vanquisher cannons (should the most expensive variant) - dual stubbers: 2*50cm/4+/-1 (or -2) (or just find the malcador profile and double the turret weapon) - dual heavy bolters: 25cm/8/5+/0 ? For the cost, less expensive than SHT, more expensive than malcadors. I don't have the time to check where we place the malcador profiles :| |
Author: | zap123 [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Is it in the optionals thread? If not, it probably should be |
Author: | scream [ Wed May 04, 2011 8:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Here is the proposition for Macharius variants I've just posted on Epic french board: Quote: Macharius Company: Contents: 3x Macharius heavy tanks Cost: 450 | Moral:3 | VP:5 Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4) Weapons: - Name: Heavy Stubbers | Range: 75cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 4+ | TSM: -2 | Notes:Turret - Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1 - Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0 Quote: Macharius Vanquisher Company: Contents: 3x Macharius Vanquisher heavy tanks) Cost: 500 | Moral:3 | VP:5 Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4) Weapons: - Name: Vanquisher | Range: 100cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: -2 | Notes:Turret, Penetrating(+1) - Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1 - Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0 Quote: Macharius Vulcan Company:
Contents: 3x Macharius Vulcan heavy tank Cost: 400 | Moral:3 | VP:4 Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4) Weapons: - Name: Vulcan heavy bolter | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 8 | To-Hit Roll: 4+ | TSM: 0 | Notes:Turret - Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1 - Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0 |
Author: | ulric [ Wed May 04, 2011 8:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Sounds nice to me especially the weapon stats are fine though the super hevay makes the heavy stubber variant a cheap baneblade maybe just remove the super heavy from all three variants and keep the point costs as they are If they are no super havy tanks there could be a CO. with 10 tanks 1 det.(3 tanks) of each variant+ anyone command macharius tank for hmm 1300 points? |
Author: | scream [ Wed May 04, 2011 9:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical. Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate |
Author: | ulric [ Wed May 04, 2011 9:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Quote: If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical. I looked through the FW range and you are right the Macharius is more a SH tank Quote: Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate Some good points here yes the baneblade is a bit underpowered |
Author: | netepic [ Wed May 04, 2011 10:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
I've never taken Baneblades, if I want to dig in and hold an objective I use Stormhammers, if I want to take out titans or super heavy tanks then its all about the Shadow Sword. |
Author: | scream [ Wed May 04, 2011 12:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Baneblades battlecannon can be usefull when all your standard AA is broken/destroyed but the tank suffers its polyvalence: not good in a particular compartment. |
Author: | ulric [ Wed May 04, 2011 8:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
I like Baneblades, the models but netepic is right compared to all other Sh tanks they are underpowered |
Author: | ulric [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
scream wrote: If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical. Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate Replace one Battlecannon with a 75cm Demolisher cannon hitting at 4+ and having a TSM -3 ignoring Cover there you have your usefull Baneblade up |
Author: | MagnusIlluminus [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK |
Re: Baneblade, Demolisher variant The Points Formula values for that are: Company: 344 Support: 180 Standard Baneblade is: Company: 330 Support: 173 Thus their values are vary similar, though not quite identical. For NetEpic Gold or 2nd edition values, they would probably be the same. |
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