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| Author: | scream [ Mon May 03, 2010 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Assault scenario, need your advices |
Hi, this week-end, my friend and I have planned to play a big battle. We decided to change from standard battle scenario and choose to play an Assault scenario that you can find in Space Marine Battles book. The battle field will be 120*180cm and we'll play on the short side with a big fortress (that I'm building), trenches, bunkers, ruins. Assaulting army will be a 10000 points one and defending army will be 5000 points. I don't know if 5000 points for defender army will be sufficient to balance the game. Usually, scenarios are made for 5000 points battles, I don't know if in such a big battle points ratio will be balanced. Would 6000 points or 7000 be a better limit for defending army ? |
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| Author: | ulric [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
we always played attacker 150% defender 100% I would say that this is well balanced since we saw different winners(attacker and defender) This gives you Attacker:10000 Defender:6650 rounded |
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| Author: | Warhead [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
I've never found much problem with a 1-2+ ratio in an assault scenario. After say 5-6K you can include enough stuff to play a decent game as a defender, with the right fortifications/objectives etc. As for balanced, I care not for such things but I would advise you pay particular attention to objectives and conditions. You might want to think of staggered reinforcements for the attacker. Arriving on a 4+ or only so many points allowed to appear each turn due to some sort of off table bottleneck, like a bridgehead. |
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| Author: | zap123 [ Tue May 04, 2010 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
Haven't done it for a long time but our experience tallied with Ulric, give the defender 2/3rds not half. Also, some armies are pretty killer on offense and some awesome on defense so you probably need to factor that in too. |
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| Author: | scream [ Wed May 05, 2010 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
Thanks for your advices  Saturday: Chaos + renegade IG + titan support will defend, SM + loyalist IG (Elysian & standard IG) + titan support will attack. On Sunday, it will be the contrary. We decided to allow aerial support for attackers. Fortress is automatically equiped with few AA batteries. About objectives, I think we'll place some objectives in bunkers and a big one (that could count 20 points) in the fortress |
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| Author: | ulric [ Wed May 05, 2010 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
Quote: Also, some armies are pretty killer on offense and some awesome on defense so you probably need to factor that in too. We did not do this(factor it) but my experience is like Zap´s e.g. Squats and Ig are both good for defence while SM and Eldar are superb to do a fast attack We played a lot of attack/defence battles with:Orks, Eldar,SM,IG and Nids in all variants and sizes We even played a battle with an alliance cosisting of Orks Eldar and Nids VS Ig SM and Titans one of the bloodiest and funniest battles at all  We also tried different Objektives without objektives, with normal objektives, with a few but valuable, with only 1 or 2 but if the enemy captured one the battle was finished(never happend  )and with objektives which get more valuable as longer as you hold them (1st Turn 5 VP,2nd Turn 10VP,3rd Turn 15VP) We also gave the defender a lot of bunkers trenches etc. to dug in. These battles were always funny and bloody good luck for your battle Scream |
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| Author: | zap123 [ Thu May 06, 2010 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assault scenario, need your advices |
Yeah, they might not end up perfectly balanced, but they should be lots of fun! If I remember correctly we had all the objectives in the defenders zone but they couldn't get points for objectives until turn 3 or maybe 4.....or something like that  Interestingly, armies like Khorne and even Orks actually worked really well in defense. World Eaters sitting on an objective on first fire are bloody hard to shift and Cannons of Khorne are scary against the massed attackers. Not so good for their deamon engines though . The whole Bad Moons and Goffs clans sitting on objectives blazing away supported with lots of the decent Ork tanks and Pulsa Rokkit batteries was tough too.
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