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Author:  Biel el'Jonson [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Hive Mind Cards are very powerfull if they are well-used. I think it's a bad idea to let a 4.000 pts tyranid army have easily 5 cards. That's why I propose to come back to the dominatrix with only 5 Hive Mind Points instead of the actual 10 HMP from the 5.2 tyranid rules book.
Author:  ulric [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Quote: 

That's why I propose to come back to the dominatrix with only 5 Hive Mind Points instead of the actual 10 HMP from the 5.2 tyranid rules book.

Its not anymore
the number of Hive Mind cards divided through 3?
Author:  zap123 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
10 HMP gets you exactly 2 cards.  It is conceivable that you could get 5 cards (25 HMPs) in a 4000 point army but you would be heaviliy loaded with Synapse critters.  The fact that the Dominatrix gives you 2 cards is factored into her 500 points....she wouldn't be worth it if she only had 5 HMP IMO.
Author:  Biel el'Jonson [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Having 2 dominatrix is not a problem in a 4.000 pts army. Moreover in 5.000 or 6.000 pts army.
Domi have a very good synapse radius and is enough powerfull (if you use energy pulse) or resistant (if you use warp field) to worth 500 pts. With 2 domi, you can take lesser other synapse creatures. So it's not a problem to have 1.000 pts in 2 domi.
But 20 Hive Mind points that you are almost sure to have in the beggining of the 2nd turn considering the resistance of your domi, give too much powerfull Hive Mind Cards.
Author:  zap123 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
I think the Dominatrix is a pretty weak unit for 500 points.  Two detachments of Exocrine get you double the firepower, or a titan gets a much more dangerous unit that is harder to kill.  If you want to burn a quarter of your points on 2 Domanatrix to get extra cards do so, but your army will be much weaker for it.
Author:  scream [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
How could you get 2 dominatrix in a 3000-5000 points game ? They are limited to 1 per 3000 points...Unless you play a 6K game, there can't be 2 dominatrix.

From Tyranid Codex 5.2 page 3 (just over Optional Rule blocks)
Quote: 

Dominatrix: All Swarms must include at least one Dominatrix, but no more than one per 3,000 points.


With this dominatrix limitation, the regen card will be very helpful for the tyranid player ;)
Author:  ulric [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Quote: 

All Swarms must include at least one Dominatrix, but no more than one per 3,000 points.

Is that new too?
I meant it was something like that:
1-3000 Pt 1 Domi
3001-6000 Pt 2 Domi
6001-9000 Pt 3 Domi

and so on

With 3000 Pt or more you will need 2 Domis
to build up  useful swarms
or you have to take a lot of hive tyrants and tyranid warriors to attach all swarm cards

But maybe there are new rules too :whistle:

PS.:
I meant swarm cards in my frist post here
Author:  scream [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Dominatrix limitation is the same since SM/TL and NetEpic tyranid codex 4.1.

PS: welcome back onboard Zap123 :) It's cool to see you back.
Author:  Biel el'Jonson [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Quote: (ulric @ Jan. 13 2010, 09:49 )

Quote: 

All Swarms must include at least one Dominatrix, but no more than one per 3,000 points.

Is that new too?
I meant it was something like that:
1-3000 Pt 1 Domi
3001-6000 Pt 2 Domi
6001-9000 Pt 3 Domi
and so on

That's how I play them.

That's what I can read in my old SM/TL Tyranid army book. No more than one per 3.000 pts with a little board precising this :
1-3000 Pt -> 1 Domi
3001-6000 Pt -> 2 Domi
6001-9000 Pt -> 3 Domi
and so on
Author:  ulric [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Thats exactly what I meant :)
Author:  zap123 [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
There are two Tyranid players still kicking around down here, and I play Bugs once in a while too.  We typically play 4-5000 points and I cant remember seeing 2 Dominatrix in an army.  I have two Doms painted but never take the second one....though I guess I would if we played a huge game.  

It's still pretty easy to control the swarms with Tyrants, Queens and Tyranid warriors.  Titans and Genestealers are independant, and there are lots of units you just dont try and keep under control anyway (Rippers, Trygons!) though it is easier now with the Winged Tyrant if you want to.  I find it is usually most important to make sure you control your nesters so they can pick important targets
Author:  ulric [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
If I played Nids (which was not very often)
I tried to build up specialized swarms
one with most fire support units
one with close assault units and spore pods
and so on
Thats easier with more Domis
Sometimes I get even problems to attach all cards to a swarm
due to not enough space
I have only 2 Hive tyrants and 4 warrior units

But I missed some units I think;
Queen, winged tyrant, rippers

Whats a Queen? :oo:
Author:  scream [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
You can use old SM/TL hyve tyrant as a tyranid queen as they are bigger than E:40K ones.
Author:  ulric [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Ahh yes I remember
the SM/TL were one per blister
the Epic 40k ones were 3 per blister and smaller right?
Author:  scream [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  HMP & Dominatrix
Yes. The same way, you can use SM/TL Carniflex as razorflex.
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