We have a squat player in our group, who is heavily dependent on his praetorians.
One of his big thingies (Behemoth?) has Bolters with 25cm range, which hit on 6+. We played them mostly as PD(10).
If they won't be PD, they usually would not allowed to fire at all.

"To reflect this all praetorian vehicles are considered Command vehicles for purposes of movement and firing."

The rules state that a unit, that has moved in his turn is not allowed to snap fire, this includes praetorians, which are command vehicles. Also they have no special rules like the titan weapons, which may activated one by one to snap fire and still the titan does not count as activated.

"Titan weapons that Snap Fire do not cause the Titan to count as having fired – the Titan may move and fire
other weapons normally. Command units that Snap Fire are not allowed to move later in the turn, nor are Command
units allowed to Snap Fire after they have moved."
"You may not fire at any target other than the activated enemy unit, and your entire detachment counts as
having fired this turn."

Two questions pop up:
1. Are Preatorian weapons considired as titan weapons, which would allow them to snap fire undependable from the movement restriction and they would "activate" the whole praetorian, when snap firing.
2. The titan rules explicitly state that AA weapon, won't activate the titan. In addition to that the AA weapon may also fire when on advance orders. Does the text above only concern AA weapons or all kind of titan weapons?
The second text seems to focus on AA weapons only, which would contradict with the rules above.

"Titans fire normally as per their given orders. Their multiple weapons can bring fire upon various
targets as line of sight and range permits. Titan weapons that count as Anti-Aircraft may Snap Fire even if the titan
is on Advance Orders. If a titan’s AA weapons do Snap Fire, it does not prevent the titan from later moving and
firing the rest of its weapons normally – the weapons are considered independent from each other."  


Since eldar don't have any praetorians it not directly affecting me, but it seems quite unfair, that titans may snap fire independently with all kind of weapons (barrage excluded) not only AA and some praetorians may not even activate their short range weapons, if they shot before in the round.

But again, maybe there is masterplan ... :]

1. No, they are praetorian weapons and not titan weapons.
2. After waking up, I would say yes, it concern all kind of titan weapons because we can see in the gold core rule book, p.36 : "[...]If a titan’s AA weapons do Snap Fire, it does not prevent the titan from later moving and firing the rest of its weapons normally – the weapons are considered independent from each other.[...]"

That's what the rules are IMO and at 7:00 AM  
If it is fair or not, I prefer to discuss that question away. Not a good idea for me to discuss what the rules are and what they should be, on the same thread. It can be confusing.

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I am not sure that this "the weapons are considered independent from each other" is a information of its own, it seems that it is addition to the sentence before. this would also justify the hyphen.

After we figured out what the 5.2/gold rules state, we can discuss whether it is fair or not.

I still do not quite understand what you're getting at???

rules are quite clear. the titans AA weapons fire FF, regardless of his orders.

why you so interested. Background? then I could assign your concerns better...may be

the question would be if all titan weapons are allowed to activate separately from each other.

No, they aren't.

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I agree with you both, but the rules are bit unclear in that matter.
Would be nice, if it could be reworded.

One word would do the trick - add "AA" to the following sentence.
"AA Titan weapons that Snap Fire do not cause the Titan to count as having fired – the Titan may move and fire other weapons normally

funny, they are really many matters in the unclearly written rules, but meaningful: "If a titan's AA weapons do Snap Fire, it does not prevent the later titan from moving and firing the rest of its weapons normally - the weapons are considered independent from each other. " is as sure as eggs is eggs

yep that is clear ...
but this: "Titan weapons that Snap Fire do not cause the Titan to count as having fired – the Titan may move and fire
other weapons normally." is not!
There is an AA missing.

you are wrong!

special rule snap fire:
the titan is on ff and shoots snap fire with one weapon. then a second move of an opponent and the titan can snap fire again (if he wants to), because snap fire do not cont as activation for titans. the titan then can shoot the rest of his weapons in the normal ff phase

special rule titans:
a titan is on advance orders (so no snap fire possible), but the titan has one AA weapon and an AA weapon ist always on FF, so the titan can shoot with the AA weapon snap fire, even he has advance orders.

i am not denying the special rule by AA weapons on titan. but one may say i.e. that phantom titan with a heat lance and a pulsar on FF order may activate the heat lance to snap fire an moving vehicle and then in the shoot normally in the first fire phase. and this is due to the following rules.

"Titan weapons that Snap Fire do not cause the Titan to count as having fired – the Titan may move and fire
other weapons normally."

I would understand the rules this way. but you receive a to hit modifier by one. on the other side it should be questioned if this should be the way to drive. primarch?