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Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:09 pm ] |
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Hi, there are still some Epic models out there without stats. Here are my suggestions: Tau. Hammerhead with twin linked plasma cannon 20cm/As+3/CAF+2 TL PlasmaC. AD.,4x TH.+4 TS:-1 Range 50cm Hammerheadwith twin linked Burst Cannons 20cm/As+3/CAF+3 Tl BurstC. AD.6x TH.+5 TS.-1 Range 50cm or AD.6x TH. +4 TS.+0 Range 50cm both variants with missile pods Still missing rules for the Tigershark remora drone carrier Imperium: Freem tank(E&C) don´t konw about them enough Malcafloor(E&C): 15cm/AS.+2 all round/ CAF+3 Demolisher: Range 50cm AD.1x TH.+4 TS.-3 ignores cover Heavy bolters Range 25cm AD.6x(3eachside 180 fire arc) TH. +5 TS.+0 PDx1 there are other variants I have to look after Eldar: Would be great if the Eldar Vampire could be divided into a heavy ground attack aircraft (the one with 2xpulsar laser) and a landing carft I will post more during the next days/weeks |
Author: | scream [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
I do not know taus at all but about the Malca variants, here are my propositions Valdor (variant with big plasma gun & melta gun on right side): ![]() - move: 15cm - armor save: 2+ (front, not all around, in regard to Baneblades and others SHT heavy protected that do not get a All armour armor save) - caf: +1 (valdor is not made for assault but for tank hunting) - note: PD(1) - weapons: - main weapon: plasma gun Range: 50cm Attack dice: 1 To-Hit: 3+ TSM: -4 Note: - - secondary weapon: 1 multi-melta Range: 25cm Attack dice: 1 To-Hit: 3+ TSM: -2 Malcador (anti personal variant): ![]() - move: 15cm - armor save: 2+ - caf: +4 - note: PD(6) - weapons: - main weapon: demolisher cannon Range: 50cm Attack dice: 6BP To-Hit: 4+ TSM: -1 Note: Ignore Cover - secondary weapon: Las-guns Range: 75cm Attack dice: 2 To-Hit: 5+ TSM: -1 Malcador (twin las gun variant) ![]() - move: 15cm - armor save: 2+ - caf: +2 - note: PD(1) - weapons: - main weapon: demolisher cannon Range: 50cm Attack dice: 6BP To-Hit: 4+ TSM: -1 Note: Ignore Cover - secondary weapon: mounted weapons Range: 75cm Attack dice: 4 To-Hit: 5+ TSM: -1 Malcador (battle cannon variant): ![]() - move: 15cm - armor save: 2+ - caf: +2 - note: PD(1) - weapons: - main weapon: battle cannon Range: 75cm Attack dice: 1 To-Hit: 4+ TSM: -2 Note: - secondary weapon: lasguns Range: 75cm Attack dice: 3 To-Hit: 5+ TSM: -1 About the tanl hunter vampire, Mogwaï posted a profile last year if I remember well ![]() |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
Ahh cool thanks scream do you use already this stats? |
Author: | scream [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
Not yet, these are just some suggestions ![]() |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
Everything sounds very nice and usefull but do the demolisher cannon not have a -3 TS Ahh sorry now I have seen that the demolisher has a barrage template |
Author: | darkangel [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:10 am ] |
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Quote: (ulric @ Dec. 04 2009, 12:09 ) Hi, there are still some Epic models out there without stats. right. we still need stats for the space marine jet bikes (I have the models but can not take them...) |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:45 pm ] |
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according to the Plasma cannon stats like on the Battlesuits move 20cm AS+3 CAF+2 AD 2 To Hit +3 Range 50cm Ts-2 +missilepods would be better for the Hammerhead with twin linked plasmaCannon |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:35 pm ] |
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Quote: right. we still need stats for the space marine jet bikes post some! move: 35cm save none CAF +3 PD1 5 for 175 points |
Author: | darkangel [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:13 pm ] |
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Quote: (ulric @ Dec. 18 2009, 12:35 ) move: 35cm save none CAF +3 PD1 5 for 175 points sounds fair... |
Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:18 pm ] |
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Quote: (darkangel @ Dec. 18 2009, 10:13 ) Quote: (ulric @ Dec. 18 2009, 12:35 ) move: 35cm save none CAF +3 PD1 5 for 175 points sounds fair... Sounds pretty good to me too. I'm guessing you didn't list "skimmer" since it's self-evident. |
Author: | eysi [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:12 pm ] |
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that would make them better than their eldar and dark eldar counterparts. since jetbikes are no core unit to SM there is no reason to make them that cheap. furthermore PD 1 is much! better than a normal weapon, due to the fact that PD can snap fire, while the unit still can move or charge. Eldar Jetbike 35 cm - +3 Shuriken Catapult 15 cm 1 5+ 0 Skimmer 5 for 200points. |
Author: | darkangel [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:25 pm ] |
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Quote: (eysi @ Dec. 18 2009, 17:12 ) furthermore PD 1 is much! better than a normal weapon, due to the fact that PD can snap fire, while the unit still can move or charge. Eldar Jetbike 35 cm - +3 Shuriken Catapult 15 cm 1 5+ 0 Skimmer 5 for 200points. good argument. probably trhe sm jetbikes should cost 200 points too. and just armed with bolters, like the attack bikes. |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:49 pm ] |
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Quote: I'm guessing you didn't list "skimmer" since it's self-evident. oh yes ![]() Quote: that would make them better than their eldar and dark eldar counterparts. since jetbikes are no core unit to SM there is no reason to make them that cheap. I placed them between the Sm Bikes and SM land speeder( which are better armed) It do not have to be Pd, I thought that all old(SM/TL) bolters switched to PD and since I do not play with snao fire (except AA-units) I just forgot it ![]() |
Author: | ulric [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
But what I´am really after is the Tau Hammerhead stats ![]() Does anyone has any problems with them? maybe 350 Pt. for 3 Malcafloors? 150 Pt. for the HH. |
Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unit needs stats |
Quote: (ulric @ Dec. 18 2009, 12:49 ) Quote: that would make them better than their eldar and dark eldar counterparts. since jetbikes are no core unit to SM there is no reason to make them that cheap. I placed them between the Sm Bikes and SM land speeder( which are better armed) It do not have to be Pd, I thought that all old(SM/TL) bolters switched to PD I could be wrong, but I don't think they did. Leaving them as bolters would probably be better, for the reasons eysi pointed out. |
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