Im using Adobe reader 8.1.7 and I dont get the little wrenches in the orkbook for  mekcards, I only get "c"
and perhaps the optional "*" sign should have an icon too?

Woow! Hey Warmaster great work as ever!!
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bans, kudos for your great artwork!

so much more refeshing than the stuff GW does!

Reminds me of the old Simon Bisley comics. Ahh, those were the days  

Thanks Sanjuro!



well maybe I have to walk a little more if you want to compare my work with the master Bisley!! But thanks for the words!  


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Strange. I haven't been able to reproduce that error. I run Adobe Reader 9 as well as Adobe Acrobat. Anyone else get this problem? Try updating Adobe reader and see if the problem persists.


Also I discovered that I forgot to update the Ork Table of Contents. Some of the later page numbers are incorrect

edit: Ah, Now I understand what you mean. In the tables towards the end. Well. My guess is that those behind the word documents used some special font to get the small wrench (essentially it is a wingdings-type font). l Since I don't have that font on my computer it simply showed up as a "c" when I opened the document. One possible solution would be to add a small picture of a wrench instead. Gonna take a bit of tinkering but it should be doable.

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I just had one of those slap on the forehead moments. While double checking your suggestions (especially regarding the Drop Pod) with the eratta document I was sent, I just discovered that the eratta continues onto a second page        I have aboslutely no idea how I was able to miss that the first time around.
My bad. I'll have to rectify that and add those last eratta right away.

Regarding the Steam Gargant: I guess that's an addition from a newer document than the ones that the Ork Gold Book was originally based on (It is one of the four books that was started 4 years ago). Not exactly sure how I managed to get eratta that included unit descriptions for stuff like the Supa Stompa and Bommer, but not stuff like the actual stats and of course the Steamgargant.
I guess that's what happens when a project like this gets put on ice for that long. Luckily it is not all that difficult to correct. The Chaos book currently in the works is made from scratch, so hopefully there won't be this type of errors.
...Though I dread to think about what kind of surprises the IG book will bring I suppose I could upload the temporary book for proof reading so the new errata can be implemented before I give it the graphic overhaul)

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Are there any plans to print a HardCopy volume of the rules,
perhaps utilizing the precedents and  existing flow of resources
that Moscovian has implemented for E:A Raiders & Siege?
(eg the preexisting Donation to Charity & print shop networking
via 'Raiders and Crusaders, Inc.)
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/forums....scovian

I'd happily prepay for the netEpic Gold Core RuleBook,
and the Marines, Eldar & Chaos supplements...

...Heck: I'd probably buy the whole set, were they to all be printed
(not likely to be done in one go-round, nor certainly not all in one book!)!
But:

I picture one 'GoldenBook'
{perhaps with two armies, similair to the original Epic2 releases}
every 3-6 months, starting with the Core Rulebook,
and also the most popular two armies in a sperate supplement.

I'm guessing at a release schedule of
1) Marines/Chaos, 2) Eldar/Orks, 3) Guard/Squats, 4) Necrons/Tyranid
(etc, et al).
If done once a Quarter, those would take a year to print
(within the 40 month window Moscovian has with Raiders&Crusaders, Inc).


Sound Feasible, or a Pipe Dream?

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Hmmm - probable pipe dream for legal reasons :S.

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This would be Primarch's table, but an "Epic Raiders" style print run is certainly possible. It is possible that it might have to be split up into several books, as the final volume will be somewhere in the 500+ pages...if not more. It would still be somewhat off in the horizon as the individual books should be done first, and (judging from the feedback here) some more bugs need to be ironed out    
Right now I think the priority should be to have all books in a reasonable shape and publically available ASAP. Then we'll purge the errors that turn up. With these kinds of publications you'll usually see errors creeping in all the time, almost no matter how many times you proof read. The trick is not to get stuck in endless proofread/errata implementation runs so you lose the momentum.

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Oh, I dunno 'bout that-
Moscovian is asking for additional supplements
for Raiders and Crusaders, Inc to accomplish:
all those obstacles have (more or less)
already been negotiated over the past ten years-
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/forums....5;st=20

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Update: I have corrected the errors in the Adeptus Astartes book that has been found so far (+ a few more that hasn't been discovered ). I have no idea how these errors happened. After double checking the document it seems most of the original eratta was in fact added, but there's just a few changes that for some mysterious reason must have missed my attention.

Anyway: Please keep them coming. We better catch as many of them as possible.

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Is there a version number included in the book? If not, it might worth adding so that a player can know exactly which version they're using.

So this version might be 'Gold (pre-release)' the final final one just 'Gold' and then any subsequent releases 'Gold (update 1)', 'Gold (update 2)', etc...


Awesome work!!! Thanks to everyone involved  

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Wonderful job Warmeistro!

My hat is off to you.



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Hm. It is not a bad idea per se, but I'd rather not give people the impression that Gold will be a dynamically updated rulebook. This probably requires a bit of explaining: The plan was to have the Gold books done as a one off project, with any subsequent changes being done as an eratta file. The reason being, that once you start fiddeling with a lot of images and stuff it becomes rather difficult to add stuff like new units without making significant changes to the layout. Eg. you have a full page of unit descriptions that ends before a new spread, where you have an image that is two pages wide. If you then want to add one more unit description, you actually have to fill in two entire new pages before the spread. That's a lot of filler...

That's why I asked for a reasonably finished file to work from when Primarch asked me to resume the project. Minor changes like a points change is easy enough, but entire paragraphs of text or new unit additions causes alot of headaches. The main reason for the eratta posted here is because I decided to finish the 4 books that I started 4 years ago, which are based on an older version of NetEpic 5.0. As you can see quite a few things have slipped past my attention while comparing the two versions and updating the Gold book as I found changes. Admitted, this may not have been the most fool-proof method, but since both the Core rules, Marine, Ork and IG books were all about 80-90% finished, this was still alot quicker than starting from scratch. The problem should be greatly reduced once we get to the new books as they are based entirely on the most recent NetEpic files. Then I expect the errors to be stuff like table errors mainly (which is easy enough to fix).

I'll of course add all the eratta suggested here when I got time and have the files replaced, but the priority is getting new books ready. Hopefully CS won't mind replacing the files.  

The idea is that once all the finished books hit the EpiCentre (and possibly go into print), no changes will be made in the forseeable future, and people should consult an eratta document for any new additions and/or eratta. Thus we could call these "Gold beta" for the time being, but there probably won't be "Gold v2.0" or something like that done...at least in a LONG time.

PS: Of course the Chaos book I'm currently working on will be up for proof reading before being uploaded to TacComms. I'll temporarily upload it to my own site and then people can post eratta and report errors.  

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Thanks. A few clairifications:

1) Any particular idea how to formulate this?

2) Is this for fliers only, or floaters and fliers alike?

3) Where should this be added? Ie. What text should be added and where in the rules?

4&5: Same: Are these for the Floater& Flier rules or the Alternate Floater & Flier rules?

6: Could you post the "Shooting out of Close Combat rules" here and a suggestion where to add them please? Also are these a regular rule or special rule?

7: Where should it be added? And is it a regular rule or special rule?

8: Add where?



The Core rules are rather tightly packed but I'll see if I can squeeze the changes in

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