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Author:  zap123 [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

Just wondering about a couple of slightly weird bits in the AMTL.  

- Mechanized Companies have command Rhinos.  Should this be Chimera?
- Why does the Defense Company have a Mechanized command?  Should it be a Chimera?
- Should all the Special Characters get Chimera too?
- Hunters instead of Hydras?

No preference, just thought I'd ask before I finish the edits.

Author:  scream [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

- Mechanized Companies have command Rhinos.  Should this be Chimera?
- Yes

- Why does the Defense Company have a Mechanized command?  Should it be a Chimera?
- Or should not it be mechanized ? A rhino is acceptable and a chimera could fit well too.

- Should all the Special Characters get Chimera too?
- No, rhinos are OK for special characters. So you can use your special characters with standard IG/SM/others lists.

- Hunters instead of Hydras?
In the 5.2 I have under my eyes, they have hunters and no hydras, I would say that hydras would better fit in an AMTL army. For a less expensive AA cover, you can place a Cerberus AA Gun on reaver or on warlord titans.




Author:  zap123 [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

Defense Company - I ask because this Company was originally designed to ride around in an Imperator, so the Rhino is a bit problematic :D.

Yes, in V5 they get Hunters.  This seems to be a Marine only weapon and is Rhino based, so I too thought Hydras would be a better fit.

I did think that now IG get Chimera/Mechanized Companies maybe the AMTL should use (cheaper) Rhinos and Rhino based vehicles so they are different  :oh:

Author:  scream [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

I really like the chimeras for AMTL. They do not really need rhinos and in the past old days, first mechanicus troops appeared with chimeras. I think Chimeras is a good choicefor AMTL troops.

For the defense company, the command rhino can be removed if they are normally inside the Imperator.

Author:  Warhead [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment


Mechanized Companies have command Rhinos.  Should this be Chimera?

Yes, we already do.

Why does the Defence Company have a Mechanized command?  Should it be a Chimera?

No command vehicle at all. They are a security detail for the Imperitor... that is their vehicle.


Should all the Special Characters get Chimera too?
Again, yes, we already do.

Hunters instead of Hydras?
In the 5.2 I have under my eyes, they have hunters and no hydras, I would say that hydras would better fit in an AMTL army. For a less expensive AA cover, you can place a Cerberus AA Gun on reaver or on warlord titans.
I think AMTL would have it all... and at cost. Leman Russ, the lot. They make the damn things for gosh darn-it sakes.

Limiting the AMTL list is counter fluff... and overcosting units is horrible games mechanics IMO so I'm keeping my fingers crossed here... but I have a bad feeling about where NetEpic has been going.

Author:  scream [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

Quote: (Warhead @ 24 Mar. 2009, 15:54 )

Limiting the AMTL list is counter fluff... and overcosting units is horrible games mechanics IMO...

Limiting the AMTL list is a good thing. If thre's no limitation, players may play a full IG army under AMTL list and will not suffer from the IG command chain and bad morale value (AMTL troopers have generally a 3+ morale value). An AMTL should be played with a lot of titans & knights, not with a lot of Leman Russ & foot troops.

Author:  Warhead [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:49 pm ]
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Damn those power players, ruining it all. Send 'em all my way...  :evil:

Och, you have a point I know. Perhaps I have become too spoiled in my laid back group.  :smile:

Author:  zap123 [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:49 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

Quote: (scream @ 24 Mar. 2009, 13:40 )

I really like the chimeras for AMTL. They do not really need rhinos and in the past old days, first mechanicus troops appeared with chimeras. I think Chimeras is a good choice for AMTL troops.

It was just an idle musing and kind of a reverse dig at the fact that the IG list has all the ATML goodies now.  I wasn't really serious about taking the signature unit away from AMTL  :(




Author:  primarch [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL Equipment

Hi!

I favor the use of chimeras. The rhinos are a hold over from the old lists.

I'd give them Hydras too.

Primarch




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