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Author:  Pettan [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Howdy folks.

A small question about the Squat landtrain battlecars....

They cost 200 for 3 of em.

for that you can get for example a Rad-bomb car, mortar car and the berserker car with 5 troop stands.. (if you have the dragon car with the train)

Berserkers cost 150 if you buy them as a seperate card.

To the question - The berserkers... Do they give any kind of victory points if they are broken?

And - do they have to start in the train itself, within coherency or anywhere in deploy area?

/Peter
Author:  Warhead [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
I have always played this as you would Terminators in the Titan Corvus Arm/Head.
The troops have the normal stats and break point, morale etc of a normal detachment. They do not need to keep in formation with the transport but do have to start the battle within it. However no victory points are awarded for breaking them. I always assumed their value to be represented by the cost of the Corvus or in this case Land Train battlecar detachment and that the VP awarded would be awarded for destroying the transporting unit.

Perhaps some people may feel this is overpowered but this type of unit rarely makes much impact on a battle IMO with the exception of claiming Objectives.
Author:  Pettan [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
That was how I figured it worked aswell.

So there is nothing that stops a player from buying a squadron of rhinos to change transports.

In one turn the berserkers can then..

Leave train - enter rhino - later leave rhino. Total movement should then be 50-10=40(for entering and leaving) rhino movement and 20-5-5-5 for the bersekers. they can therefore move a total of 45 from their start position.

45 cm.. Into the fray.. Not too shabby.. Dont ya think?

If they started in the rhinos this would be 45+15 =60 cm.

/Pete
Author:  Warhead [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
45 cm.. Into the fray.. Not too shabby.. Dont ya think?

Sorry to burst the bubble Pettan but if you have a read of the Core Rules for NetEpic v4.1 it states under Transport Vehicles on Page 14...
Models may not embark and disembark in the same turn.

This means your Berserkers would have to Exit the Land Train at some point and embark on the Rhino's in the next turn.
I know you want to make use of the Free unit but as I said before it is limited as to it's uses.

Check NetEpic v5.1 (I can't download it for some reason) it may have different rules or wording.
Author:  Pettan [ Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Wow. I was just bonked in the head by the rulebook. Hope I can make a comeback in the near future. ;)

Good catch Warhead.

//Pete
Author:  Warhead [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:24 am ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
LOL :laugh:  Sorry! I didn't mean to sound so pompous. I was too excited thinking I knew the answer and forgot to soften the blow. I do hope I haven't broken anything.

If it's any consolation I burst out laughing at work and got queer looks from my colleagues when I first read your reply. They thought I was having a fit. Nice one.
Author:  Pettan [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Naah, dont worry. I´ve had worse before. You should see me around the ladies. *shivers*

I guess that...Models may not embark and disembark in the same turn.

Means that they cannot disembark and embark either...

/P-man
Author:  Erik M [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Should have that in EA too. Just because the vehicle moves trice as fast doesn't mean it's a good idea to disembark it... :O
Author:  Warhead [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Quote:

Models may not embark and disembark in the same turn.


Means that they cannot disembark and embark either...



Means - May only Embark OR Disembark in any one turn.

Naah, dont worry. I´ve had worse before. You should see me around the ladies. *shivers*
Glad to see you up and about P :laugh:  Hey does this mean wumin (women) in Sweden have rule books?! It must read like a High-Fi manual mate.  :p


Should have that in EA too. Just because the vehicle moves trice as fast doesn't mean it's a good idea to disembark it...
Hi Erik M,
I honestly don't know enough about EA but it must make for a very fast and mobile game. That may account for the reduced ranged fire of most units too. (Compared to NetEpic). E40K was similar then? I've been peeking at the EA posts and BatReps and although intrigued, the similarity to E40K puts me off.
Author:  Pettan [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Glad to see you up and about P :laugh:  Hey does this mean wumin (women) in Sweden have rule books?! It must read like a High-Fi manual mate.  :p

Naah, just that ive been slapped around on occation. You should try it. Might do you good :whistle:


Means - May only Embark OR Disembark in any one turn.

Hopefully this can be fixed if you are correct Warhead. I have never done that but I can see it happen in games.

/Peter
Author:  Warhead [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:46 am ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Naah, just that ive been slapped around on occation.
Har!  :laugh:  

Obviously you are setting your sights too high P'Man. Try ugly women. They tend to have less options and so are more grateful. I also suggest using very thick 'beer goggles' most things look prettier when looked through a haze of beer.

You should try it. Might do you good
Hope that's not an invitation P'Man. I'm strictly butter side up.  :))
Author:  Pettan [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Obviously you are setting your sights too high P'Man. Try ugly women. They tend to have less options and so are more grateful. I also suggest using very thick 'beer goggles' most things look prettier when looked through a haze of beer.

I take it you talk from experience. :vD

Hope that's not an invitation P'Man. I'm strictly butter side up.  :))

Well.. What I can give you is an invitation to Sweden. You will go home crying after I whip you in epic!  :D

/Pettan
Author:  Warhead [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Squat Landtrain cars
Well.. What I can give you is an invitation to Sweden. You will go home crying after I whip you in epic
Aagh, so sure of yourself young fella'me'lad.  :laugh:  I would gladly take the challenge and extend my own if you care to cross the water and travel to Scotland at any time.  :agree:

I take it you talk from experience
Yes but unfortunately the roles are reversed in my case as I always end up getting asked. So I must be fairly ugly.  :_(
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