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Return of the Eldar
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Author:  zap123 [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Return of the Eldar
We have 1 and hopefully 2 new players down here and I had planned to do a mini batrep of last nights game but have sadly come to the realisation that a Sony Erricson K810i does not take good photos indoors, so this is all you get :). ?The one salvageable photo is of the state of the battle at the end of the game.

Yogozono brought his Eldar out to play after giving the Slanneshi Knights a hard time with his IG tank army last game. ?I had just finished my old school IG footslogger army so we had a classic matchup. ?It was a good game with the odd freaky result (a Ratling shooting down a Phoenix bomber and another breaking the Warlock titans' Pulsar most noteably). ?Unfortunately the IG is a bit brutal to be facing in your third or fourth game of NetEpic.

I was surprised to learn the Vypers had been dropped back to a CAF of +1...just never noticed that in all my trolling through the Eldar list.
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:33 pm ]
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Bummer about the pics, Zap. One is better than none.

My usual Epic opponent plays Eldar also. I'm trying to talk him in to giving NetEpic a try. He seems to be interested. He also wants to learn E:A at some point.
Author:  loofnick [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:45 pm ]
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+1 seems poor for the Vypers.  Landspeeders still get +3.  Seems more like the Eldar should be better here not Marines.

Hurrah for Ratlings!!  :D
Author:  yogozuno [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Return of the Eldar
Damn, there really wasn't enough yellow left, was there? Oh, and that pic was the end of the game...which was just after turn 2...brutal!

Gotta say that vypers certainly seem to suck the big one - high speed, but such a low CAF, and a very short range weapon...perhaps I simply need to learn to use them better, but the jetbikes seem a much better deal.
Author:  zap123 [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:31 am ]
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(loofnick @ Dec. 05 2007,18:45)
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+1 seems poor for the Vypers. ?Landspeeders still get +3. ?Seems more like the Eldar should be better here not Marines.

Hurrah for Ratlings!! ?:D

Yeah, somebody took a bit of a stick to the Eldar somewhere between the 4.1 and 5.0 lists.  Can anyone remember if this was a deliberate change or another of the long list of typos that seemed to afflict the Eldar list in particular?
Author:  primarch [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:13 am ]
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(zap123 @ Dec. 05 2007,19:31)
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(loofnick @ Dec. 05 2007,18:45)
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+1 seems poor for the Vypers.  Landspeeders still get +3.  Seems more like the Eldar should be better here not Marines.

Hurrah for Ratlings!!  :D

Yeah, somebody took a bit of a stick to the Eldar somewhere between the 4.1 and 5.0 lists.  Can anyone remember if this was a deliberate change or another of the long list of typos that seemed to afflict the Eldar list in particular?

Hi!

Chang them back to +2 then. It was an experimental change that if it doesn't work in practice should be turned back.

Primarch
Author:  zap123 [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Return of the Eldar
Can do.

One other question that popped up was with regard to the Tyranid list.  It was hypothasized that forcing you to take a Dominatrix as commander might be a bit unbalancing in small (2000 point or lower) games.  One thought was perhaps add a Broodlord option?  (I assume he is the new version of a Genestealer Patriarch?)
Author:  yogozuno [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:56 am ]
Post subject:  Return of the Eldar
The Brood Lord is basically an uber-Genestealer. He's a 40k HQ choice, and so is pretty much the equivalent of a Hive Tyrant in that way.

I think that having Hive Tyrants and Warriors (with the possible addition of a Broodlord) makes sense at the 2000pt level...having a quarter of your points locked up in a superheavy tank commander doesn't. Right now, a Dom is required in any size of nid force - I think she should not be mandatory until you hit at least 3000pts.
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