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| Author: | umbrella demon [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Wartorn 4 rules question (heavy armor) |
Question Heavy Armor. "Invulnerable save – Invulnerable saves can come from many things such as, divine protection, or a magical trinket. An invulnerable save always lets a unit or character have a 6+ to save from damage." and "Heavy Armor – Units with heavy armor such as mounted knights, get a 6+ invulnerable save on any failed armor save, or get a 6+ armor save when none is allowed." yet under a combat example.......... "but if you look at Teds Hirdmen they have the special rule Heavy-armor. Heavy-armor gives you a 5+ invulnerable save allowing you to re-roll any failed armor save at 5+. Ted re-rolls and gets 3,6, " I assume that it was a typo on the combat example ? And what if exotic weapon (-1 to armor class) is used against someone with a 6+ save ? Can I assume that model doesn't get a save ? U.D. |
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| Author: | Blindhorizon [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wartorn 4 rules question (heavy armor) |
Good catch! So the rules have gone through some refinements and i havent pulled that part out with Ted's Hirdmen(rules are being updated as we are typing this). Heavy armor used to allow a 5+ invulnerable save, i reduced it to 6+ and anything that has an invulnerable save gets a 6+ save unless otherwise stated, in rare circumstances that have yet to come up yet a figure may be allowed a greater then 6+ invulnerable save. A formations armor value is their standard save. I know your interested in Undead so lets take a look at them from the download you have. We will be looking at the Wight Cavalry formation. Wight Cavalry: 204 points per formation, 4 stands. Movement: 25cm Health: 3 Attacks/to hit:4/4+ Command: 7 Armor: 4+ Special rules: Fear, Shamble, Mindless, Exotic Weapons, Heavy Armor, Trample. So if we look at this stand it has an armor save of 4+, so any damage the stand takes can roll a d6 for each wound and try and save on a 4+. Exotic weapons reduce this to a save of 5+ and crushing allows no armor save. How heavy armor works is it allows an extra chance to save that can not be modified at all. For example, i shoot with my bows from my woodelf bowmen and hit you 3 times, i give a -1 save for piercing ranged weapon. you would roll 3 d6 and try and get a 5+ to save. lets say you failed two of your saves, heavy armor would allow you to roll an additional save for the 2 that failed at 6+. It makes some formations a ton more durable. Also if those 3 attacks would have had crushing on them (no armor saves), you would not get to roll an armor save but you would still get your normal 6+ invulnerable save. Hope this clears up some confusions, Blind- |
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| Author: | umbrella demon [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wartorn 4 rules question (heavy armor) |
Thanks. How about a skeleton (6+ save) getting hit by an exotic weapon? He doesn't get an armor save? U.D. |
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| Author: | Blindhorizon [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wartorn 4 rules question (heavy armor) |
Yes sir, the skeleton would just die. |
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