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When Nids attack
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Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:15 am ]
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So, the Nids are entering the galaxy from the east.  THis also happens to be where the Tau are.

Now when you look at the Nid race, you can see where the genetical material from some races have gone, in creating their species.

Tyrant Guard - DNA from space marines
Genestealers - DNA from Humans (but also Orks, eldar etc)
Zoanthropes - DNA from Eldar
Biovores - DNA from Orks


So, as the Nids have now started to clash with the Tau (anyone remember the story where a Tau official tried to negotiate with a Nid?  Ha ha ha  :D   gulp!!!!)  where do you think the addition of Tau and Kroot DNA will take the Nids evolution?

The Kroot already evolve in a similar way to Nids (by eating) so I dont see much coming from them.  The Tau, though?  Hmmm.  What are their races strengths?  Mainly technology.  Okay, maybe they dont have anything to offer the Nids, and that's why nothings appeared yet.

Maybe better bio weapons?  Shooty Nids!!!!
Author:  Xavi [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:03 am ]
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with such mutable geneseed you'd better expect the nids NOT to learn from the tau to THINK in depth so they start playing with artificial genetic engineering with themselves or everybody would be in deep trouble.

Cheers,

Xavi

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Author:  CyberShadow [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:56 am ]
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I thought that the Nids were actually attacking up from underneither the galactic plane. Anyway, when the Nids assimilate more Tau DNA, things could be interesting. Firstly, how will that affect their Hive Mind since the Tau are a-psychic? I would guess that a more 'shooty Nid' would emerge. Kind of a Gaunt with rifle perhaps.
Author:  stormseer [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:54 am ]
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Well.. their various fleets are coming from different directions- Kraken and Leviathan, IIRC attcked along the galactic plane, but Behmoth (the one which destroyed the Squats :;): ) came from underneath....
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:00 pm ]
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There are/were three known major hive fleets - Behemouth (mostly destroyed), Leviathon and Kraken I think.

The first attacked from the east as one large group, and were pretty much wiped out.  The second learnt from this and attacked in splinter fleets.  They still roam from system to system, and are hard to counter.  The first anyone usually knows of a splinter fleet, is when it attacks.

The third is indeed attacking from underneath.  This fleet again seems to have learnt from the first two.  Not only is it attacking as splinters too, but it also decided to avoid the concentration of defences that are in the east section of the galaxy.  Instead it circumvented them, and came up in the middle area of the galaxy.

This is where the squats used to be, and it's believed the Nids have wiped them out.


Which makes you think....what DNA advances have they gathered from them?  ???

During the EoT, the nids were allowed to attack certain areas too.  Wether these will  be part of the third attack wave, or a new one, I dont know.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:51 pm ]
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With all the firepower the Squats had/have, I find it hard to believe, that "they all got ate by Bugs "! :o   But G/W can make up what they want and do, regardless ...   :angry:   However, the Tau should give the 'Nids a run for their money.  The Tau are a Firepower based army as opposed to the 'Nids.  And a skillful Tau & Kroot Commander should "toast" the bugs, by letting the Kroot screen for Tau by engaging the bugs in C/C and keeping them away from the Tau ranged weapons.  Any commander that lets the 'Nids close the range and engages in C/C ... well he deserves to be on the menu !  "Bloody Amateurs !" - some Brit commander said that, I forgot which one !  Maybe Monty after the US loss at Kasserine Pass !?  :;):
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:59 pm ]
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The Tau can be difficult for a Nid army, but with the right tactics its possible.

Remember that many Nids are extremely fast.  Gargoyles can go up to 18" plus assault.  Hormagaunts up to 12" and then assault another 12". (assuming lucky 6" fleets)

Now on normal battlefield, in a couple of turns they will be in HTH.  This in turn will cause a screen for the large monsters to advance safely behind.

=Dead Tau!  :angry:
Author:  Legion 4 [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:04 pm ]
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You're talking 40K, I'm talking Epic, Yes !? ? I don't play 40k or comment on 40k tactics, since I see the rules as being very poor and all based on close combat as opposed to movement and fire. ?But as I have said before, play what works for you ... not me ... ?:;):
Author:  primarch [ Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:14 pm ]
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Hi!

I think the Tau would be hard pressed if a major swarm head their way. Although they have firepower, they have nothing like terminators or other close combat troops to deal "close up". I'm not sure what they could gain from the Tau, that other races haven't given them already.

As for what tyranids gained from wiping out the squats...well...a deep unabiding loathing for GW marketing tactics... :L

Primarch
Author:  Legion 4 [ Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:02 am ]
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Point well take on the Squats ...  I do think the Kroot may have a hard time if massively out numbered by bugs.  But of course the Tau have a lot of CAS (Barracudas, Tiger Sharks) !  :;):
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:41 am ]
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 23 2003 Oct.,17:04)
You're talking 40K, I'm talking Epic, Yes !? ?

D'oh.  Yes I was.  Unfortunantly for me, I'm the only epic player by me at the moment.  I'm trying to introduce someone to epic40K, and then hopefully onto EpicA upon its release.

As such I have no idea what the Tau are like at epic scale.  In fact Tau, Nids and Chaos I have never played with(or against) at Epic.  :{
Author:  Legion 4 [ Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:01 pm ]
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Well, let there be no doubt, the Epic Tau & Kroot are still the new army on the block and still need a little fine tuning. ?But all that firepower holds promise against C/C based armies ... ?:;):
Author:  netepic [ Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:37 pm ]
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Chaos is an army everyone should fight, at least in NetEPIC/SM/TL they are awesome opponent that leads to some very dramatic battles :).
Author:  primarch [ Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:18 pm ]
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Hi!

Chaos is a varied entertaining force with parts of it working like IG, SM and others with their own unique flavor.

Its great to play for and against them.

Primarch
Author:  Legion 4 [ Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:51 am ]
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Been there ... did that ... many times ... :;):  ("The Dark Side is strong in this one ...") }:)
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