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New Necron stuff leaked. Unfortunately, it's not that great

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:47 pm 
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Hello,
To conclude my last post, I have now found an interpretation that still explains harvesting and is directly taken from the new fluff.
In the description of the new scarabs it says the scarabs transform matter into energy for later use.
It is not said, but at least implied that organic matter is more efficient to transform(otherwise we could feed the scarabs rocks for nearly unlimited free energy).

This allows the Necrons to indeed "harvest" their enemies. For pure energy in the new case.
At least for myself(and my Legion), this is working.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:57 pm 
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Sounds like Nids to me. Why would organic matter be easier to transform?

Oh well, the good news is I'm in a position where I can crawl under a black pyramid shaped rock and stick my fingers in my ears about this Codex.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:04 am 
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Hi,
I personally think that the old Necrons indeed had a lot of the tyranid feeling. After all their primary purpose was to harvest the souls of the living.
The new Necron Codex scratched that concept. Now the Necron's have many more possible goals and motivations, which is a good and a bad thing at the same time.
Back to the scarabs. The new Codex gives enemy troops and vehicles as example what the scarabs transform into energy.
The assumption that organic matter is easier to transform into energy was only an assumption, the codex does not explicit say so.
However, if all matter can be transformed into energy with the same gain we would have another major plothole, as all Necrons simply could feed whole planets to the scarabs to gain incredible amounts of energy. This seems not to be the case, so there must be a mechanic to prevent it. The assumption that the transformation of matter into energy is inefficient with things like rocks seemed at least reasonable.

And to distinguish clearly between fact and assumption, this are the facts given by the new Codex:
- Necrons call some of their raids a "harvest". (without further details)
- scarabs transform matter into energy.
- preferred targets for that are vehicles and troops.
- the energy is used to build necron vehicles, structures or repairs.
- the energy can be stored

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:29 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:20 pm 
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I'm reading Hammer and Anvil (Black Library 2011) and the book has some really interesting info on the Necrons and the evolution of the fluff. Don't know if its any more detailed than the Codex, but it does explain Necron motivations and structure very well in an interesting fashion.


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I'm not terribly pleased with the Doomsday Ark that I'm building.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:19 pm 
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Reasons? Fit/Design/other?

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You know, you don't have to make it look identical to the 'official' monstrosity. Take some time, do some test sketches, and make one that keeps some obvious design details while at the same time is appealing to you.

I mean something like keeping the rib arrangement, but making the ribs themselves look different.

As long as the thing has a big gun running down the middle, with a command section at the rear and ribbing things in between, everyone will know what it is supposed to be.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:33 pm 
Spectrar Ghost wrote:
Reasons? Fit/Design/other?


The aesthetics of the design are too "busy".


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:02 am 
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WestSide wrote:
I'm reading Hammer and Anvil (Black Library 2011) and the book has some really interesting info on the Necrons and the evolution of the fluff. Don't know if its any more detailed than the Codex, but it does explain Necron motivations and structure very well in an interesting fashion.

Thank you for the recommendation, westside.
I finished the book yesterday and it was great. It was obviously written with the new codex in mind. While the fluff is the same as in the new codex the overall atmosphere and meaning was different. If the codex would have been written like this book far less people would have been offended.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:44 pm 
Necron scarabs by Forge World:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/N ... SWARM.html

They look 'anty' to me, and hard to get accustomed to. They seem to match some of the new codex art, though.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Yeah, those will take getting used to.

They can't match new Codex art, because there is no new Codex. It's a hoax.

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ya, i was duped in to buying one of those fake codexs... FUGW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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