Quote:
The main takeaway here is that it's cheaper to buy a 3d printer than buy an Imperial Guard army from Games Workshop.
LMFAO
Made my day, brother!
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Could be interesting: http://www.wired.com/design/2012/05/3-d ... n=Previous |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Quote: The main takeaway here is that it's cheaper to buy a 3d printer than buy an Imperial Guard army from Games Workshop. LMFAO Made my day, brother! |
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| Author: | carlisimo109 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
The article seems a bit one-sided; I think it’s fair for GW and other designers to be worried about it. I don’t really think miniatures piracy would kill them. For one thing, cheap printing at a consumer level should mean even cheaper printing for a company as large as GW. Their costs should go down too. Or, it might turn out that pirated figures greatly expands their player base, and they make enough legitimate purchases (not necessarily miniatures) for the company and others like it to survive. But those are just wild guesses. For all I know, it’s equally likely that players end up not giving GW enough money for them to keep their design studio alive, and the game freezes in time – everyone’s printing bootleg copies of current models, using current rules, and nothing new will ever come out because GW is dead. |
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| Author: | Nitpick [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
If they think that they can go on doing what they do without modification, indefinitely, then they are not going to survive. But change in the face of disruptive technology is good. Even for GW. As far as I see things, nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. |
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| Author: | Todderman [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
carlisimo109 wrote: and nothing new will ever come out because GW is dead. Good, funk them with a rusty chainsaw. |
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| Author: | The Bissler [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Nitpick wrote: If they think that they can go on doing what they do without modification, indefinitely, then they are not going to survive. But change in the face of disruptive technology is good. Even for GW. As far as I see things, nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. Since they gave up on Epic, they've been dead to me for years... As a footnote though, I was disillusioned with them for a while, everything revolved around WHFB & 40K. Yes, these are their core products, but it would have been nice to see more variety! |
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| Author: | Nitpick [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
And variety will come! I fact, the grassroot potential of cheap 3D-printdriven creativity might very well herald a new, if not golden, so at least vaguely metallic age of mini collection and, consequently, gaming. The question that GW should ask itself is how they can assist in this revolution, not try to control it. This is pathetic. People will get fed up, modify things just as much as is needed to be able to use old stuff and do away with this senile bunch once and for all. |
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| Author: | carlisimo109 [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Nitpick wrote: As far as I see things, nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. So what if we talk about other companies? What's the business model for Mantic, or Spartan Games after 3D printing takes off? |
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| Author: | netepic [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
We've been able to print books for years at home - the publishing industry survived. |
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| Author: | Nitpick [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
We will see what happens when more people start reading e-books. Everyone copies everyone all the time, to some degree. The notion of the lone inventor/creator working in a cultural vacuum is to me very naive. Straight copying is not something I prefer, rather infinite variations and combinations. I for one refuse to think of single minded lawyers dictating what can and cannot be created as a sound solution as long as they stick to ludicrous interpretations of IP. |
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| Author: | daemonknight [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Man this is like the whole iPad patented the rectangular tablet design and sue everyone else for it. Seriously we have a bigger concern for people trying to 3D guns or even articial human virus with 3d printers. |
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| Author: | berzerkmonkey [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Nitpick wrote: nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. Hmm, you better tell GW then, because their profits are up in the first 6 months of this fiscal year. (http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-c ... tement.pdf) carlisimo109 wrote: So what if we talk about other companies? What's the business model for Mantic, or Spartan Games after 3D printing takes off? The business models won't change. Why? Because it won't make enough of an impact. For all the talk of affordability, printing a 3-D model is not cheap, and will not be for some time (if ever - look at the high cost of printer ink, for God's sake!) When the costs come down enough to make it feasible, you're still not going to get a mass conversion to knockoffs, because most people aren't technically savvy enough to be able to control the process from start to finish. On top of that, the majority of people who might use 3-D prints are not the market GW is selling to. GW have made it clear for some time that they are actively pursuing the young kid off the street who can get mom and dad to make the large initial purchases it takes to get into 40K/Fantasy these days. GW does not care about the long-term gamer, and they certainly don't care about niche-gamers like us, because we do not make any money for them. Will you get people printing out their own models and using them? Of course. But it will more affect niche games like Epic, and not large scale games like 40K. |
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| Author: | Moscovian [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Nitpick wrote: If they think that they can go on doing what they do without modification, indefinitely, then they are not going to survive. But change in the face of disruptive technology is good. Even for GW. As far as I see things, nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. Was this meant to be reflective of the god-emperor or was that simply clever coincidence? |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
Moscovian wrote: Nitpick wrote: If they think that they can go on doing what they do without modification, indefinitely, then they are not going to survive. But change in the face of disruptive technology is good. Even for GW. As far as I see things, nothing new ever happens because GW is already dead. The fanbase have not accepted it yet, so the expensive life support machine that goes 'ping' keeps the living corpse churning out the same stuff over and over again. Was this meant to be reflective of the god-emperor or was that simply clever coincidence? *** Inquisitorial Sanction *** Authorities have been notified of your heretical statements. Submit to judgment. //Storm trooper squad Perseus on route to your location 0.67.ALPHA +++ =]I[= |
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| Author: | carlisimo109 [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Clive Thompson on 3-D Printing’s Legal Morass |
berzerkmonkey wrote: Will you get people printing out their own models and using them? Of course. But it will more affect niche games like Epic, and not large scale games like 40K. That's an interesting thought - maybe it'll kill off all the gaming companies except GW. |
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