the possibility of gobblertanks makes me excited and sad at the same time. i just finished grabbing some dystopian wars figures to make tanks from, but these will probably be better and i'll have to buy them too!

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You have to sacrifice for Da Revolushun!

Sell dystopian tanks on eBay. Buy GobblerTanks on Evil&ChaosBay.

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having literally just an hour ago hacked them all off their bases, i'll probably just double up on tanks, anyway, more options = more variety = better than.

that said, how about some sort of power loader instead, to help the gobblers with their heavy lifting duties.

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*scribbles down idea for a later stretch goal*

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Okay, so I've just finished updating the Indiegogo website with the new pre-orders, but it bears repeating them here for discussion:

- Plastic Bases Sprues
- Churchillian Tanks
- Black Prince Tanks
- Alien Biker Gangs (they come with plastic bases, which can be turned upside-down to be used with the bikers)

And in addition I've modified the Gobblers Perk to include bases.

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oooh~ bikers!

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Any plans for Noble Aliens in heavy armor?

Heavy armoured Alien leaders are a priority, I'd like to open them up for pre-order in the next batch of stretch goals.

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Congrats on clearing 3500! The new kits look nice.

Add the vehicle add-on kits though! It's more of a priority to make the basic kit more useful and wanted than to add new things.
Actually given the amount that's been pledged so far just over 1/3 in this much extra seems easily feasible.

Extra troop types sounds higher priority than varient poses though e.g. more elite/armoured orks and humans, heavies and leaders (the could be done in metal but better in plastic if possible).

You also want to re-iterate the previously okayed option to choose not to have base sprues in your sets - the option of having double the original number of models is impressive and should be a good advertising point.

When they're ready; The Churchillian, etc. are already sculpted. :-)

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Actually, as far as basic infantry is concerned, I think pose variation is key. The only models you'll need LOTS are basic infantry. Heavy weapons, specialists and officer are sprinkled on, rather than used in vast amount. They are fine as additional metal sprues.

I would rather buy a plastic sprue with 3 poses of basic infantry, and then purchase an additional metal "expansion pack" (with say 3 sprue of heavy weapons guys, 2 sprue of sergeants, and a sprue of officers), which would provide me with a quality comparable to metal-only high quality range for better value, than have sergeants and heavy weapon guys on my sprue but 1989 style single-pose infantry, and all my stands looking the same. It would be a shame really, with those nice looking round bases and all...

Like most 6mm collectors, I have loads of basic infantry already, and the available variety of affordable metal infantry means that below a certain level of quality I'm actually not interested. And when it comes to 6mm dudes, the first factor of quality in a range IS variety.

Keep in mind that basic GW plastic sprues will remain quite easy to find and affordable for years. After the initial funding I'm afraid a sprue of infantry LESS interesting than what can be found on ebay or in other existing 6mm lines will not sell as well as a higher quality one, even if it need to be completed with an additional blister or expansion pack.

The most rational development would be to make the initial sprue as interesting as possible, so that it stay interesting for people who already have an army.
For that, one needs to be able to buy aliens or human separately : as a starter a mixed set is defensible, but when a player look to expand is collection, he usually develop one army first.
And then, quality need to be good enough that you'll buy some more when you want to expand your armies, rather than want to replace your originals with other, better quality miniatures. Because in that case, chances are that you'll actually start with the nice miniature rather than rebuy an army, and the plastic sprue will stop generating revenue.

I think 6mm sci-fi is a small enough market that you'll need all the interest you can get if you want to make enough money to be able to fund later sprues and projects.


As it is, I have no plans to base an army around a single infantry model. Expectations are not the same now as they were in 1989 when space marine came out; the same Heavy-weapon guy + 4 grunt in the same pose on a stand now look like a token rather than a miniature. On the other hand, a variety of poses would make the basic infantry usable even for one expecting high quality. Sergeants, officers, heavy weapon troopers, etc, are doable as a side pack; variant pose basic grunts are not (or completely defeat the main purpose of plastic).


Ben, I also think that you should display some prices for the item you're selling, and get them slightly higher than for the backers (25£ for a box for example). It would be an additional incentive to pledge rather than wait for the release to maybe buy, and it is a quite traditional mechanism of pre-order and crowdfunding.

I think you've persuaded me Athmospheric, I guess variant basic troopers are more important to be plastic than heavies/characters. I agree with your other points too, hopefully the new additional buy options will push up the funds to allow for multiple poses for each race.

I'd like to do a bit of both, but can place higher priority on pose variation if that's what's wanted.


What if we don't want to put the price up in the long term, but can't afford to put the price down at this time either? :-)

Remember that we lose 4% of each sale to Indiegogo, and another 4%-5% to paypal depending on the purchase size, that actually eats into our profit margin a fair bit.

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The long term is one thing, but you have to think about the 29 next days a lot more than the long term right now

Up the price for the release items; I doubt you will get bad reactions if you lower them again in a few month

You can also set a news/preview page on your main troublemaker site, and a link to the project page for the pre-orders.

I know many people are only interested in high quality at the moment (this is very marked at least in the French community) ; motivating them to pre-order is a good way to help with your initial funding. The issue of course is that at the moment, it implies metal, and doesn't really help you finance your project.


To have your crowdfunding campaign really WORK, you need to make people WANT your plastic :

People wanting metal is nice, people wanting to help the 6mm comunity is nice too, but only when people will actually want the plastic sprue for themselves (not as a link to try and convince a friend to start the hobby) will it really be successful.

That means that anything that synergise with the plastic sprue should get top priority : there need to be as much incentive as possible for people to buy plastic. Since plastic is so expansive to set up, metal can help, but actually only so long as it makes people buy plastic. So, variant weapons for the vehicles, alien and human sergeants and officer sprues, because such items will sell sprue. And as soon as it can be financed, more on the sprues themselves.

I recon you may have time for several cycles of "metal bitz -> better sprue" before the end of you campaign... make the most of it !