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Author:  blackhorizon [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Okay, I received this reply from Forgeworld on what are the weapons on the Protector:

Hi

I just managed to catch the sculptor Will before he left the office.
Apparently the turrets are Ion cannons and the stubs on the front are Rail Gun batteries. He also told me that the large launch bay underneath is for ordnance and the little ones on the front are for shuttles etc and possibly Orca Drop ships.

Regards
Dean Winson
Forge World

Thus a re-design:


Custodian GC 310 points
Hits - 10
Speed - 20cm
Turns - 45*
Shields - 3
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 4

Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - LF - Port
Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - RF - Starboard
Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Port
Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Starboard
Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Prow
Gravitic launcher - 3 - F - Prow
Gravitic launcher - 3 - F - Prow
Launch Bay - 3 - NA - Port
Launch Bay - 3 - NA - Starboard

Note:
* Prow deflector
* ITS - 30cm range

Protector cruiser 180 points
Hits - 6
Speed - 20cm
Turns - 90*
Shields - 2
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 3

Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - LF - Port
Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - RF - Starboard
Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Port
Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Starboard
Railgun battery - 4 - 45cm - F - Prow
Gravitic launcher - 5 - F - Prow
Launch Bay - 2 - NA - Keel

Note:
* Prow deflector
* ITS

Emissary light cruiser 125 points
Hits - 4
Speed - 25cm
Turns - 90*
Shields - 2
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 2

Railgun battery - 2 - 45cm - F - Port
Railgun battery - 3 - 45cm - F - Starboard
Railgun battery - 3 - 45cm - F - Prow
Gravitic launcher - 3 - F - Prow
Launch Bay - 1 - NA - Keel (only Barracuda)

Notes:
- Port & Starboard batteries can be replaced with 1 Grav Hook each.
- Prow Deflector at +15 points.

Warden Gunship 30 points
Hits - 1
Speed - 25cm
Turns - 90*
Shields - 1
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 1

Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - LFR - Prow
Railgun battery - 2 - 30cm - F - Prow

Castellan escort 55 points
Hits - 1
Speed - 20cm
Turns - 90*
Shields - 1
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 2

Ion Cannon - 1 - 30cm - LFR - Prow
Railgun battery - 2 - 30cm - F - Prow
Gravitic launcher - 2 - Prow

Orbital City 170 points
Hits - 12
Speed - 0cm
Turns - 0*
Shields - 3
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 4

Railgun battery - 10 - 45cm - all round
Launch bay - 4

Note:
The presence of an Orbital City allows for 2 Wardens not counting against available Grav Hooks in the fleet. (Grav Hooks are necessary for Warp Dives).

Security Orbtal 55 points
Hits - 1
Speed - 0cm
Turns - 0*
Shields - 2
Armour - 5+
Turrets - 3

Standard:
Railgun battery - 3 - 45cm - all round

As secondary weapon choose from:
a) Railgun battery - 3 - 30cm - all round
b) Gravitic launcher - 2 - all round
c) Ion cannon - 1 - 30cm - all round

fleet special rule
when on AAF all ships have 5D6 extra instead of 4D6.

Edit:
- removed Railgun Warden
- added Emissary
- added Tau Orbital City
- added Tau Security Orbital
- added Custodian stats
- made security orbital modular
- added special AAF
- edited Warden & Castellans to WYSIWYG
Author:  blackhorizon [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Xisor's reply:
Drop the Grav Missile to 1 on the Castellan and throw in a Prow Deflector.

Warden should stick with the Ion Cannons.

Alternatively, the Castellan *could* pick up the 2 Ion Cannon role and the Warden could take that of a 'heavy railgunship', but I still prefer what we have now.

For the Protector, I'd say either the two 'side' guns could go to Fp3(not quite as keen here), or the middle 'prow' array could go to Fp5 or 6, simply to account for sheer 'badass' of the model.

Again, you know my insistance on the whole thing, but the Protector should only have S1 Launchbays. Those 'holes' in the front of the ship are on the Emissary and the Castellans too. The Emissary is to have the LB since it has little 'runway' things down the side of the main hull-wing joins and the Protector has that thing on the bottom.

Otherwise, it looks like a nice alternative list.

Just 'too' advanced for my take on things(90* :80: ).

Xisor
Author:  Xisor [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
I still agree with what I just said!  :p

Xisor
Author:  blackhorizon [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Drop the Grav Missile to 1 on the Castellan and throw in a Prow Deflector.

I have this disliking for 1 torpedo vessels. However the PD is interesting yet expensive for an escort.

[quoteWarden should stick with the Ion Cannons.[/quote]
If I ever want to become a Champion I agree. :D

Alternatively, the Castellan *could* pick up the 2 Ion Cannon role and the Warden could take that of a 'heavy railgunship', but I still prefer what we have now.
That's an option, but indeed the 2IC Warden & RB Castellan is better.

For the Protector, I'd say either the two 'side' guns could go to Fp3(not quite as keen here), or the middle 'prow' array could go to Fp5 or 6, simply to account for sheer 'badass' of the model.
I think 8 batteries backed up by those IC is strong enough. If everybody decides against the second Launch Bay the prow batteries will upped to 6.

Again, you know my insistance on the whole thing, but the Protector should only have S1 Launchbays. Those 'holes' in the front of the ship are on the Emissary and the Castellans too. The Emissary is to have the LB since it has little 'runway' things down the side of the main hull-wing joins and the Protector has that thing on the bottom.
I like a small carrier in low point games, othewise Tau are out-ordnanced in small games, even with ITS.

[quoteOtherwise, it looks like a nice alternative list.[/quote]
Thanks!

Just 'too' advanced for my take on things(90* :80: ). I don't think so. :p
Author:  Xisor [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Of a curious note, and one that'd 'help the model better', have you recently considered the 2*S2 Missile Launcher for the Protector?

Perhaps that'd 'slightly' offset the lack of carrier-ness. Indeed, that, alongside the increased power to the Prow array should probably help the whole shebang along a bit better.
Author:  blackhorizon [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Nope, no 2*S2 on the Protector. I'll stick to the 2 Launch bays, really really really really really ??? .

The Custodian will have 2*S3 missiles. It has two seperate launchers where as the Protector has only one.

Added orbitals
Author:  Xisor [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
But but but but!

Of everything different or doable, I really think the Protector simply doesn't have enough to it to allow for the extra Lb. Still, it is your list afterall.

Nice to see the Orbitals remain similar to the SG ones, I'm quite a fan of their current setup.
Author:  blackhorizon [ Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Nice to see the Orbitals remain similar to the SG ones, I'm quite a fan of their current setup.

Me too. I'm thinking of making security orbitals a more modular concept.
Author:  blackhorizon [ Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Custodian added plus modular concept for Security Orbital.
Author:  Recidivist [ Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Interesting...
Author:  blackhorizon [ Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Tau - CPF - WYSIWYG
Indeed, provocative: yes. Fun: I guess....
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