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Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser

 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:37 pm 
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I'm Currently building a Eldar Ship for my Friend who plays Eldar Cuz i like building stuff

It's called a Shadow Hunter Class Line Cruiser heres it's stats could you tell me if you think the suitable

Shadow Hunter Class Line Cruiser 260 pts

Type/Hits         Speed     Turns      Shields     Armour Turrets
Grand Cruiser/8 10/20/25  special    Holofields  4+        0

        Range/Speed                Firepower/Strength    Fire Arc
 Prow Pulsar Lances 45 cm                  5                 Front

Notes: Any Line Cruisers in your fleet must be supported by two standard Eldar cruisers (6 or less hits).

Tell em if you think this is ok thx

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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:58 am 
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:cool: I'm a grand cruiser  :cool:

It doesn't look too bad.  I do think the Eldar already have a ship called the Shadow Hunter (an older version ship, I'm sure its on one of the front page links)

I'm a bit wary of it only having two weapon systems.  A critical hit that damages the prow will render the ship useless. It could do with some kind of secondary system.


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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:57 pm 
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Lol I forgot About ur name strange how things like that happen :oo

Any way thx for the Input

You should she the model it looks amazing. I need a digi Cam god damn it :{

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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:42 am 
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I'd like to see it.  How have you done it?

Did you think about giving it any secondary weapon systems?

Can you not take a regular photo and scan that, or even the model?


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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:08 am 
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his is what I was thinking of

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/rules/gothic/goldeldar01.html

Its the last one.  At the very end of the article the Mistletoe is refered to as Shadow Hunter (for ordering)


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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:44 pm 
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Yes, the Shadow Hunter was the Eldar vessel from the original Space Fleet game, the precursor of Gothic. I have one waiting to be painted up.

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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:13 pm 
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The shadow Hunter is created by:

This is a great conversion "trick" that I've seen used a couple of times on the internet. The first time I saw it at was as the Shadow Hunter Cruiser displayed at Dropship 40K. They have, by far, done the best job as well. I decided that I simply must build one, so I did, and made stats for it as well. Here's a step by step walktrough on how to build your own.

The main things you'll need for this conversion are the main body of a 40K Eldar Support Weapons Platform and an Eldar cruiser of your choice, both the Shadow and the Eclipse work equally well. If you're a perfectionist like me, you might want some green stuff as well.  

First off, you can start by trimming the grav jets off the Weapons Platform bit. I used a jewlers saw, but if you've got a Dremmel tool you can do a rough cut with some metal shears and clean the edges up after. From the top it isn't as obvious as to where you want to cut, but on the underside you'll see that there are some thicker ridges that you'll probably want to work around.

Next, get rid the three little bumps on the back of the platform, they'll impede the assembly later. File down the cut edges so that they're relatively smooth.

There's an obvious hole in the middle of this bit where the gunner's pivot step is supposed to go. To cover/decorate this, the folks at Dropship 40K cut the top off the Shadow Weaver that comes with the platform. I lament to waste good bits in this way, so I merely used a small plastic dome I had in my bits box.

The basic assembly should be pretty obvious: put the weapons support platform were the cruiser's prow bit would usuallt go (I used green stuff to attatch them, since the bottom of the support platform isn't quite flat). As for the cruiser's wings, I decided not to attatch them in the usual place, but in a groove along the side. This makes the wings splayed out, and makes the ship look bigger. Again, green stuff was used due to the unlevel surfaces.

There's another option to think about now. Our Dropship 40K friends put a pair of Nightshade Class Destroyer wings on the sides of the main body. This helps distract from the place where you cut the jets off, and its a neat converstion you can use on any Eldar captial ship. I didn't bother with this because I don't have the cash to buy or order a blister of escorts.


The Dropship Shadow Hunter has what looks like a big pulsar lance on the front. I imagine they chopped up another Eldar escort to make this structure. I wanted to keep with Dropship's original idea, which is why I added a big prow pulsar lance in the rules I made. I had an extra 40K Scatter Laser which I decided would look good. I cut off the barrel of the weapon, as well as a small oval. I then filed both ends of the barrel, and affixed the oval to the level end. The angled end I later attatched to the angled surface on the front of the weapons platform bit, between the two forward blades.

After all the glue and putty was given some good, long drying time, I started on the painting. I decided that an expensive piece of hardware like this ship should belong to a craftworld fleet. I chose Ulthw?'s color scheme: Black undercoat, off-white highlights, red gems. I believe it turned out quite nicely.

I'll work on the image

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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:18 pm 
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I have been thinking about that secondary system:

i think i might take the pulsar lance down to 4 and give it a strength 3 keel laucnh bay with about a 50 point increase

tell me what you think and what i should change the points to.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:45 am 
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Have you also seen these conversions?

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/pics/pages/geldar01.html



For the secondary system, 3 is a bit of an odd number for a launch bay.  How about dropping the pulsars to 4 and having 2 launch bays for a total of 280pts?


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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:09 pm 
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Cool Conversion who made them?

My model is are diffrent i don't use the Prow part

I thought strength 3 launch bays would be cool because it was something different   :-:

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 Post subject: Shadow Hunter Class Grand Cruiser
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:17 pm 
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They are made by Fracas IIRC.  He doesn't frequent here much anymore, but you'll find him on Portent.

I know the conversion you're talking about.  I've seen it around too.

It's your ship, so if you want 3 bays go for it  :cool:   As long as the points value is reasonable it shouldn't be a problem.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:32 pm 
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Thx for the help

I appriciate it :)

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