Yeah I found that out about the nids, I haven't told the player yet. Yes Thawks are very resilient in a way. 4+ save if that is resilient, I guess in gothic it kinda is. lol I have put my marines on hold right now. I have been playing epic alittle more lately, better game too. lol I will keep the marines in mind though. I also have some chaos that I have to build from them box set, no escorts yet though. But thinking of not having them anyways. don't know if thats wise but hey when have i been before. anymore info is greatly appretiated still. So keep them coming.