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Battlefleet Gothic:
Victory Points
15% extra against Orks, all ships
15% extra against all other races, capital ships only
Wording could be a bit clearer in my humble opinion. Now it is mentioned in the designer notes.
I agree, concisifying things is probably a good idea!
Citadel vs Stronghold
The difference is:
+ 100pts (450 pts versus 350 pts.)
+ 2 Hitpoints
+ 2 Cutting Beam
+ 6 Launch Bays
Based from Smotherman (not official but okay) the hitpoints & launch bays account for 112 pts. So one should suspect the Citadel to be at least 115 pts more expensive then the Stronghold. Or are those 15 points drawn back because of the heavier fleet restriction?
I can't argue that reasoning. There wasn't a particular analysis on things as I'm entirely winging it on points values. For someone doing Theoretical Physics at uni...the Smotherman Formula still is alien to me!
Rampart
Quite strong little vessel I must say! I would say that the points should be upped a little ~5pts or that it should get a stricter restriction on the fleet list.
I hadn't realised that. My thinking on it was always that "no-one'd put more'n one in a Squadron", but that's me thinking that, not anyone else! I'm content to see it's price go up, but I'd be keen to see what you think of a 0-1/Squadron rule?
Butress
Also strong, compared to a Chaos infidel +5pts, +1 Cutting Beam, +1 Turret, 45* turn instead of 90*, -5cm.
It also benefits from the full Demiurg rules. I feel that the 45* and -5cm compensate roughly for the increased turret and cutting beam, whilst the +5pts is enough to justify the Demiurg Rules.
Fleet re-rolls
Are fleet re-rolls assigned to specific ships for purpose of calculating victory points?
Yes, that should be clarified! Woops.
Brotherhood
Really cool concept! Anyway, how does it work in a campaign? Roll for each battle or only once in the campaign (eg the moment you get a Brotherhood).
Cheers, I don't recall the exact source of the inspiration for the rule, but I have a suspicion it's archived in GothiComms and that it was largely due to the input of lots of folks here, rather than 'my idea'. I've added into the the Fleet List that you roll for them *once* in a campaign, not for each battle.
Renown
The ranking names should be more ?Brotherhood? like. Not names from an Imperial viewpoint imo.
But that means I'll end up with Warlords, Living Ancestors, Engineers Guilds and Trikes! . I'll investigate that idea, any suggestions?
Refits
I noticed a refit to store blastmarkers for a turbo boost (call it KITT  ). Why no refit to store blastmarkers for the Cutting Beam? Not that an issue, just a thought that came to my mind.
Not for any particular reason I'm afraid, any in the refits that you'd say could do with being replaced/outfitted with this style? [The Ghnyght Rhydr brotherhood?]
Modelling guides/tips
In case of the Citadel, Garrison, Rampart & Butress it would be really cool if you added a ?modelling page?. Tips to build them, which model to use etc.. The Epic & Inquisitor players would also like this I think.
I agree one bazillion percent. However, I need to get Ray Bell to produce the article for the Citadel and Garrison, as I've not actually built them yet (Poor student budget...). That said, if anyone ever feels like trying their hand...
On a side note, the next phase I'm looking at for the article is essentially this:
Inquisitor
Modelling. I've done two Demiurg models now, one substantially better than the other. I really would like to get a dialogue on exactly what kind of 'style' works nicest for them, even seeing if I can't harrangue someone at Games Workshop Studio into trying their hand having seen the look I'm going for...
Additionally, I intend to do a proper bit of background with properly developed Characters on either the Envoy (the Demiurg in the majority of the fluff so far) or the Technician (a Demiurg that liased with the Tau in the Medusa V campaign), or some other one I can think of. (Also thinking of 'The Analyst' and 'The Janitor')
Epic Armageddon
I'm going for the proper Gothic-steam-punk-archaic-kick-ass Demiurg style with the next bit: A Demiurg Titan (or more accurately, a Demiurg torpedo  )
Battlefleet Gothic
As you know, my next thinking here is 'Defenses'. I'm quite pleased with the few I've made, and I may even try and tie in a few more mentions to the Kareshi Expanse in the Defenses list (I'm still a fan of the Tobari being a Demiurg automaton 'race' that arose after the deaths/loss/overthrow of the local brotherhood...). I've got a few neater pencil sketches (having seen my MS Paint sketches, you know I'm no artist!) for the stations, which I should be able to develop at somepoint.
Additionally, as you say, a modelling section'd be great. Buttress is easy, with the Rampart only slightly more difficult. The Garrison and the Citadel were, though, Ray B's collection, so he should have the honour(nay, responsibility!  )
Finally, harking back just slightly: on the Campaign Renown titling, it's not really *just* an Imperial perspective. It could be Ork (turn knowledge to 'fear' ), it could be Tau, Chaos, Rebel, Kroot, Eldar....
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