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Author:  Tigibus [ Sun May 17, 2015 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Rules : Questions
Hi,

Barrage :
I have 3 Whirlwinds which fire on an Ork Detachment. I place 3 templates (one for each whirlwind) on the target.

I am right? or there is only one template to use?

What a Titan do after a lost assault? :
When a detachment lose an assault, it must do a retreat move. It's OK!
A titan haven't to do this move because it can never be broken and do not retreat. it's OK!
But, in the next turn, the titan is always in contact with the enemy.The titan can move to somewhere else? Or he can't move until the assault is finished?
Author:  Noigrim [ Sun May 17, 2015 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
3 whirlwinds-firepower three check your firepower with the kind of target in the chart and it will tell you how many templates to place.
Author:  Tigibus [ Sun May 17, 2015 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
So, if I understand you (my english is not very great) :

3 whirlwinds fire on infantry under cover :
Firepower = 3 (1 per Whirlwind)
I use 1 templates

If the infantry is on the march, I use 2 templates.

is it right?
Author:  Noigrim [ Sun May 17, 2015 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Put the templates that the chart says
Author:  Tigibus [ Sun May 17, 2015 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Thanks you for your help. So I can conclude with this exemple :

There are 3 whirlwinds, it means a firepower = 3 (1 per vehicle)
I lock on the table (with regards to the target) to know how many template I can put.
I put the template(s) on the target.
I count the unities which are under the template(s).
The number give me the dice number to launch to hit.

Is it ok?
Author:  lord-bruno [ Sun May 17, 2015 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
3 Whirldwinds means 3 templates.

You can place the templates anywhere over the target detachment. Count the number of units under each template and that ¡s the firepower.

You can overlap templates or, in fact, place all at the same spot (you only need one template in this case, and firepower is number of units x 3).

;)
Author:  Tigibus [ Mon May 18, 2015 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Thanks!
I played it like that, but it seemed to me very strong. That is why I had a doubt.

Now, it is sure : the BARRAGE weapons mustn't be ignored.
Author:  Ginger [ Mon May 18, 2015 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Hi Tigbus, you are getting there ;)

When you check the unit stats for the Whirlwind unit, it has 1 barrage point. Those units that can fire add their barrage points together which you check on the barrage table to determine how many templates etc you can use so in your example the three whirlwinds may shoot with up to 3 barrage points.

The process is slightly different from normal shooting, and is presented in the section of the rules on barrages, but in summary are as follows.
  1. Check how many Whirlwinds can shoot at a single enemy unit. If there is a choice, then you should choose the unit that allows the template to cover the greatest number of enemy units in the formation.
  2. Now check the barrage table to determine how many templates are to be used, and whether there are any extra BMs.
  3. Now place the template(s) to cover the most enemy units.
  4. Roll separate dice for each unit under the template, deducting 1 if the unit is in cover, andplacing a hit marker against affected units.
  5. Complete any other shooting, placing hits front to back on those units that have not been hit.
  6. Finally make saves for each unit that has been hit.

I hope that makes sense.
Author:  Tigibus [ Mon May 18, 2015 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
When you write "barrage table" you means "Firepower table"?

Because I know the barrage table for EPIC ARMAGEDDON but not for EPIC 40.000
Author:  Reedar [ Mon May 18, 2015 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Tigibus wrote:
When you write "barrage table" you means "Firepower table"?

Because I know the barrage table for EPIC ARMAGEDDON but not for EPIC 40.000



Hi Tigibus, I don't think Ginger realised this thread was in the E40k forum. His answer relates to E:A, not E40k I believe.

Cheers
Reedar
Author:  moredakka [ Mon May 18, 2015 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barrage : question
Yes Ginger has quoted the EA method and not the much simpler E40k version explained by lord-Bruno. ;) :)
Author:  Tigibus [ Sat May 23, 2015 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rules : Questions
Hi,

I have an other question concerning the titan : What a Titan do after a lost assault?

When a detachment lose an assault, it must do a retreat move. It's OK!
A titan haven't to do this move because it can never be broken and do not retreat. it's OK!
But, in the next turn, the titan is always in contact with the enemy. The titan can move to somewhere else? Or he can't move until the assault is finished?
Author:  moredakka [ Sun May 24, 2015 7:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rules : Questions
Hi Tigibus the answer to this one is on page 109 of the Battles book.
Author:  Tigibus [ Sun May 24, 2015 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rules : Questions
Ah yes!
Thanks
Author:  moredakka [ Sun May 24, 2015 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rules : Questions
No problem. :)
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