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NetEA vs Localised Epic Lists?

 Post subject: NetEA vs Localised Epic Lists?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:36 am 
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Curious to know who are the Epic Uk team?

I understand there is a website, but can see little information on there about list design, rules amendments etc?

http://epic-uk.co.uk/wp/

Curious to know how/ why a seemingly duplicate set of lists was developed for the ones already existing in NetEA?

Presumably it means that Epic UK lists are used in UK for the most part and NetEA only elsewhere in the world? Continental Europe uses Epic UK or NetEA lists?

Is there a Epic USA series of lists at all?

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA vs Localised Epic Lists?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:10 pm 
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It's historical, back in the early days of list development, the UK started to develop a tournament scene, however many of the lists at the time had very considerable balance issues, and the development process to resolve these was a long and arduous process, so the decision was taken that a group of UK players would develop their own version of lists in a closed environment, circumventing much of the inertia in the NetEA project at the time, this meant that the UK tournament scene had access to more balanced lists for competition

NetEA has continued and many of the newer EpicUK lists have built off the NetEA variants, but often with some of the more esoteric options removed to streamline the lists for tournament play

EpicUK lists are used in EpicUK tournaments, but many people around the world use them where there is not an equivalent or if the lists are divergent and they prefer one over the other (many people prefer the EpicUK tyranid list over the NetEA version, they play quite differently, IIRC the Australian Tyranid list was based on the EpicUK approach, but using the newer tyranid creations from 40k)

The two groups are closely aligned, as Tiny-Tim and Steve54, both members of the ERC for the NetEA project, also are involved in EpicUK list development

Quite possibly if the lists of today had existed ~10 years ago, EpicUK wouldn't exist, but it's a historical split and we're a little too far down the path to backtrack now

The main groups are NetEA which is global and open to all, EpicUK which is for the EpicUK tournament scene, Epic-FR which again is a historical split, and the new guys on the block are EpicAU who develop lists for their own scene, there is no EpicUSA and no real need for one, most of the active people in the US scene are firmly involved in NetEA and happy with its direction

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA vs Localised Epic Lists?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:24 pm 
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NetEA is global.
EUK is UK and used in some continental european events. EUK lists are generally more balanced than NetEA lists for some races, for competitive tournament play, but at the cost of having fewer options/less flavour. NetEA and EUK lists can play against each other in the same event, this is done where neither organisation has complete approved lists for all races.

There are also Australian lists, again in the same EUK/NetEA ballpark but there are a newer developments (i dont know much about them).

Epic France lists exist in their own microcosm and are not very compatible with other localised or global systems due to being divergently written to suit a very different meta/play style.

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA vs Localised Epic Lists?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:23 pm 
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Most tournaments in Australia use NetEA lists, and may or may not allow a small number of others.

The EpicAU lists are for Heresy era games.. I guess kinda like playing 30K. There used to be a separate one day comp for it attached to Cancon each year, following the two days of EA, but it's dropped off over the last few years. Three day tournaments are a big ask for most players..

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