Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lists

 Post subject: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lists
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:52 pm
Posts: 5
Hi, i wanna start playing epic Armageddon and have my sights on an Admech or Knight lists. Currently there are only a few lists on NetEA. and i was told to avoid the Battlescribe ones as they might not be balanced. So would like to know are there any updates to any additions of factions to NetEA list? or any of you have come up with new balanced lists? Thank you.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:55 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 8766
Location: Worcester, MA
Beyond the ones in this forum? No. Norto's list is coming along though, he's been getting in plenty of VASSAL games with it.

_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2018-05-15


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:13 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:52 pm
Posts: 5
Is there a location where this Norto’s list can be found?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:21 pm 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 8766
Location: Worcester, MA
It's the post right below yours.

viewforum.php?f=22

_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2018-05-15


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:03 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:30 pm
Posts: 4176
Location: Greenville, SC
As of right now the Admech lists are pretty stable.
AMTL 3.25 is complete
Skitarii 2.1 is stuck in limbo but effectively finished.
Knightworld is complete

Questoris Mechanicus and Norto's list are dev lists. I haven't played Norto's myself but questoris mechanicus is pretty solid more modern take on knights.

_________________
-Vaaish


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:28 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 pm
Posts: 72
Vaaish wrote:
Skitarii 2.1 is stuck in limbo but effectively finished.


??

waiting on ERC signoff, or something else?

_________________
I know how this one ends
So bite your tongue if you can't tame it


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:46 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:30 pm
Posts: 4176
Location: Greenville, SC
It was submitted, stuck at 2:1 for approving it and currently has no path forward to flip the third vote since there's only three members on the ERC now and lists require three yes votes to approve.

_________________
-Vaaish


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:12 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:52 pm
Posts: 5
ah thank you. will take a look..


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:47 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 pm
Posts: 72
Vaaish wrote:
It was submitted, stuck at 2:1 for approving it and currently has no path forward to flip the third vote since there's only three members on the ERC now and lists require three yes votes to approve.


Ooooo K

So one person doesn't like it, but the other two are good with it and nothing can be done.
Roger.

_________________
I know how this one ends
So bite your tongue if you can't tame it


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:12 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:21 am
Posts: 8
Vaaish wrote:
It was submitted, stuck at 2:1 for approving it and currently has no path forward to flip the third vote since there's only three members on the ERC now and lists require three yes votes to approve.


Hello Vaaish,

I was wondering if there was an official channel of feedback about what exactly the issues were with the hold out approval?

Vaaish wrote:
As of right now the Admech lists are pretty stable.
...
Skitarii 2.1 is stuck in limbo but effectively finished.
....


If you are happy with it and 2/3 of the ERC are happy with it, what changes are being requested by the 3rd ERC member?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:26 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:30 pm
Posts: 4176
Location: Greenville, SC
I have no specific feedback at this point. The general feedback I received from the initial skitarii submission has been integrated or was unactionable (no specific asks or would effectively reset the list dev).

_________________
-Vaaish


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:00 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:21 am
Posts: 8
Is it normal to not get feedback from ERC re why a list is not going to be approved? It would seem to make sense as otherwise the there is no way forward?

Vaaish wrote:
I have no specific feedback at this point. The general feedback I received from the initial skitarii submission has been integrated or was unactionable (no specific asks or would effectively reset the list dev).


You mean the requests would have caused sufficient changes to the tested list to reset back to Experimental or Developmental and needing more Batreps?

What is the standard for changes allowed prior to such a reset occurring please? :)

Cheers :)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:01 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 8766
Location: Worcester, MA
None of the initial feedback was incorporated. To summarize it: boring and hard to play with, with slow an expensive formations that lead to a low activation count and little customization of formation contents. Specific asks were given for themeing the list as either defensive (shooty robot/rapier formations, static defense laser, trenches) or offensive (allow for cheaper mechanized options, tanks). Beyond those, making the formations more flexible in terms of unit contents.

The list was re-submitted with 5 battle reports from players other than yourself. The changes included: reduction of carapace landing cost, increase of quake cannons and support missiles, and some avenger and golgotha stat changes.

It's been mentioned to you on multiple occassions that you are effectively ignoring community feedback. The initial feedback above was from myself and another member who played with and/or against the list. It was ignored wholesale. All of it was specific and actionable. Would it had meant more battle reports? Yes. But I see the posts on this forum where the feedback was being given before the original submission as well.

I'll also add that 2/3 of the ERC are not "happy" with it, I read it more as stoic acquiescence/optimism that things would change after approval.

_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2018-05-15


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:06 am 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 8766
Location: Worcester, MA
D_Arquebus wrote:
What is the standard for changes allowed prior to such a reset occurring please? :)


We haven't come up with a set of hard and fast rules. If you change some points it's not a big deal. If special rules are being added, or extreme units though 6 or so reports wouldn't be out of the question.

Most of the time though people just submit a list with a handful of adjustments garnered from the battle reports. I think we've approved most of those without much fuss, as they weren't big changes or were apparent from the games.

_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2018-05-15


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Any updates on additions of Admech or Knight faction lis
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:07 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:21 am
Posts: 8
"...optimism that things would change after approval."

I'm curious what you mean here please Dave? I would assume that after approval the lost is locked and not subject to change?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net