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Epic UK Update

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:10 pm 
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The Championship standings and other stats are now completely up to date. Apologies for the delay and thanks to Reedar for all his hard work on this.

Also we have a small list update

Dark Angels
2x Nephilims changed to 225pts

Thousand Sons, Black Legion, LatD
Flamers lose Extra attack +1 in FF
Flamers FF changes to 3+

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 Post subject: Re: Epic UK Update
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:58 pm 
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Great changes! Thanks for your work!

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 Post subject: Re: Epic UK Update
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:18 pm 
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Shall we just call the championship there? Don’t think we really need anymore tournies this year?

On a more pragmatic note, good to see the flamer nerf, they’ve been the basis of the lists which won the last 4 UK tournies!

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 Post subject: Re: Epic UK Update
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:37 am 
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Yeah im glad the flamers got a nerf. Dave and I had a game the other night of Tzeentch Black Legion vs. Guard in prep for West Lothian. I felt like for the most part the formations are almost just delivery systems for the daemons. I truly couldn't imagine a way to get the other daemons to be nearly as effectively. And at 15 points each for 2x4+ FF attacks was a wee bit cheap in my opinion


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:58 am 
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Yeah im glad the flamers got a nerf. Dave and I had a game the other night of Tzeentch Black Legion vs. Guard in prep for West Lothian. I felt like for the most part the formations are almost just delivery systems for the daemons. I truly couldn't imagine a way to get the other daemons to be nearly as effectively. And at 15 points each for 2x4+ FF attacks was a wee bit cheap in my opinion


The Daemonic Beasts can be pretty effective too, if combined with formations that has enough static combat resolution modifiers (which can be hard to achieve outside of L&D). But Flamers are certainly the most versatile.

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 Post subject: Re: Epic UK Update
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:54 am 
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thanks guys :)

Just a quick one though, at the London GT i was using Nids rather than Black Legion.


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RichardL wrote:
thanks guys :)

Just a quick one though, at the London GT i was using Nids rather than Black Legion.



Will sort - thanks Rich


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 Post subject: Re: Epic UK Update
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Are there any plans to reflect some of the NetEA changes into the epic UK lists? eg land raider changes. And, err, white scar bikes :)

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Do you mean the new 75 for 1 or 125 for 2 Land Raider change thing Kyrt? I’m not that bothered either way on this personally, but I really dislike the lack of the option of a Land Raider upgrade for Tacticals in the Epic-UK list. There’s plenty of background justification for them having them and with the Net-EA list I most often like to run armoured all ground SM lists with no air or spacecraft, but these sort of builds aren’t possible to take in Epic-UK (and are probably less optimal than the usual air builds so unlikely to be overpowered).


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:31 pm 
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Do you mean the new 75 for 1 or 125 for 2 Land Raider change thing Kyrt? I’m not that bothered either way on this personally, but I really dislike the lack of the option of a Land Raider upgrade for Tacticals in the Epic-UK list. There’s plenty of background justification for them having them and with the Net-EA list I most often like to run armoured all ground SM lists with no air or spacecraft, but these sort of builds aren’t possible to take in Epic-UK (and are probably less optimal than the usual air builds so unlikely to be overpowered).
Aside from moving thunderhawks to the 1/3, the codex changes are for land raider and vindicator pair point breaks yes, but for white scars they are the reductions to terminator and bike formations. The latter especially makes a big difference (played a game with 575 terminators and they were still rubbish).

If EUK wanted to they could reduce those bikes straight away. Otherwise I am tempted to bring them to London as "white angels".

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:01 am 
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Submitted a PR on armyforge for the nephilims change, I think this change is effective for tournaments from now on?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:32 pm 
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Kyrt wrote:
Are there any plans to reflect some of the NetEA changes into the epic UK lists? eg land raider changes. And, err, white scar bikes :)

Any further comments on this from anyone connected to EpicUK?

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Kyrt wrote:
Any further comments on this from anyone connected to EpicUK?

Nope.






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