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Hive Fleet Gorgon netEA 0.5

 Post subject: Hive Fleet Gorgon netEA 0.5
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 4:34 am 
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I really liked the Leviathan list and was sad to see it slow to a halt and disappear from development. I've been pm:ing with Dave about getting a similar list back in development and have volunteered to be the sublist-AC.

This is not a straight of copy of the Leviathan list, but rather inspired by it. To be clear that it's not the same and to not step on any toes I've used another name. I've also looked up the current edition 40k rules for inspiration. Below I present the Hive Fleet Gorgon list.

The basic tactic of tyranids is of course hard to change (and not something I want to do) so most list will have a similar theme. I still think a leviathan/newer nids kind of list ha a place. My hope is not just to bring in a lot of new units, but to actually give alternative strategies. I think the inclusion of drop podding, the flying swarms/units (basic and independent) gives some interesting alternatives.

I've used the current netEA stats were units are the same except for the zoanthrope as that has clearly developed into a synapse creature with later editions of the tyranids.

Some points
  • Gone are dactylis and malfactors. I've introduced BP weapons in some other places, but they are considerably more short ranged.
  • Special rules are the same, except for one addition. I want us to test a small boost to the lesser creatures and also to promote synapse. Under synpase add: In addition to swarming a tyranid formation may ignore one hack down kill for each point of synapse remaining.
  • I've brought the hierodule more in line with current 40k fluff/forgeworld. The hierophant rules are also based on the forge world unit rather than the old epic model, but I have used the onachus cost and rules as a guide. I've also tried to introduce a bit of customization. Titans seemed like a fitting place at epic scale to represent a bit of the ever evolving theme the fluff suggests.
  • The most obvious difference to levithan is the army list structure. Never was a fan of the cluster building thing. I've retained the basic swarm from onachus and it's the base of the list, but have used the brute swarm as well. I think most formations from the list can still be made. I've also introduced a new concept with the winged core swarm. I'm particulary interested in feedback on the latter.
  • I want most swarms to have synapse and that's why the tunneler swarm is changed and why exocrine swarm from onachus has been incorporated into the brute swarm. Some exceptions still exist (independent swarms) for units that I thought should really be independent. The bio artillery swarm is perhaps the odd bird that should also have a synapse creature? Didn't think of any good synapse candidate. Suggestions for this formation? Make it part of the brute swarm?
  • Hive tyrant CC-version. Unnecessary perhaps? To good with wings in mind? I don't think so with the winged formation primarily being a FF oriented one, but still interested in your thoughts. Mostly wanted to give some modeling opportunities.

Can't think of anything more right now. I hope you enjoy the list. Please give me your feedback and I hope there's more than me around here who'd like to see a list based on the current tyranids.

2018-05-09
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Looks good!

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 12:15 pm 
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Looking good! Would be nice to have a special rules section tho. Is this list supposed to use the rules for synapse being playtested for Onachus btw?

You could always pair the bio-artillery up with Zoanthropes or Tyranid Warriors.

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Mrdiealot wrote:
Looking good!

Thanks! :)

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Would be nice to have a special rules section tho.

Ok I will fix that for the next iteration.

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Is this list supposed to use the rules for synapse being playtested for Onachus btw?

I've testetd 5 games with the playtest rule (both with and against it) and I've had mixed reviews from those I've played. From to powerful to ok and fluffy. Personally I think it's good and not to powerful.
Always better to be cautious when developing lists however. I've tried to put more synapse in this list and I thought it might be better with a light version of the playtest proposal. Hence my suggestion of ignore one hack down kill per synapse point instead. A tyranid player will not win more engagements with this suggestion, but will survive them better to attack again and again. Sort of like how the fluff describes them of coming in wave after wave.

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You could always pair the bio-artillery up with Zoanthropes or Tyranid Warriors.

Yes those are probably the best fit.


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That version of the Synapse rule is interesting!

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Looking to resurrect my Tyranids and this list looks the most representative of how Tyranids should work, thanks Borka! I plan to build a hybrid drop list. This looks like a lot of fun! Just a few questions:

Loss of AA on Zoanthrops I assume this is on purpose.
Increase in tyranid swarm cost by 25pts, just wondering why.

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atension wrote:
Looking to resurrect my Tyranids and this list looks the most representative of how Tyranids should work, thanks Borka! I plan to build a hybrid drop list. This looks like a lot of fun!

Glad to hear that! :)

atension wrote:
Just a few questions:

Loss of AA on Zoanthrops I assume this is on purpose.
Increase in tyranid swarm cost by 25pts, just wondering why.


A) indeed intentional. It has changed to much in the fluff. I think it and/or the malanthrope are the prime candidates if we feel later on that we need to bring ground based AA back though.

B) Not intented copy-paste error. Should be 200 as in onachus.


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