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Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)

 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:31 am 
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Ok, So I'll update the pdf tomorrow
But for now:

Mission 275 ==> 250 plus Palantine
Retribution 250 ==> 225
Exorcism 250 (I still feel these are still costed farily)
Purgeane 250 (Pricing based off Hellhounds in Cadian List)
Choir Mission 250 ==> 200 (These will go to 250 wit ha character, 5 pts more than the Raptors)
Coven 200 ==> 175 (Ours have MW so I think this price could be ok)
Lightnings 150 (I still feel these are still costed farily)
Emperors Chapel 200 - (I still feel these are still costed farily and comparable to the Imperial Guard superheavies)
Penitence 175 ==> 150pts


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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 am 
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I think a cross-board points drop could skew the list a little too heavily the other way, 25pts off 10 formations gives you an additional activation, I'd be wary of doing that en-masse, it's much better to test the list as-is whether subpar or not, then focus on the notably underachieving formations first for points drops and other tweaks such as free characters

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 2:07 am 
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I think we'll be ok with the cost reductions and the additional charachter to the Mission I've laid out.
Not all the units are dropping price and the others aren't by too much.

Comparing them to the BL prices it seems like it's a good match.

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm 
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Question on Living Saint:

Wouldnt Living Saint be an Add to a unit instead of Upgrade since it has its own stat line, abilities, weapons etc plus its classified as infantry not character.

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chivalrynsorcery wrote:
Question on Living Saint:

Wouldnt Living Saint be an Add to a unit instead of Upgrade since it has its own stat line, abilities, weapons etc plus its classified as infantry not character.

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Currently it's an upgrade. Similar to Daemon princes for the Chaos lists


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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 5:41 pm 
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Not to be to picky and I am sure most people understand the upgrade but for clarity it should say
Replace instead of Upgrade as the Demon prince for chaos says.

Because upgrade and replace are two different things.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:43 pm 
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chivalrynsorcery wrote:
Not to be to picky and I am sure most people understand the upgrade but for clarity it should say
Replace instead of Upgrade as the Demon prince for chaos says.

Because upgrade and replace are two different things.

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No no, being picky is fine :)

I'll put that in my notes for next release :)


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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 (Experimental)
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:38 pm 
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Hello, I have been playing with Sisters of Battle since 2016 and it was my first army, so I really like that after some quiet time the list is being devoloped again!

In general I think that it has a good direction, focusing in the important things and removing bloat.

Some thoughts:
*I think that Mission, Retribution and Choir reduction in points was needed. I don't know if Coven and Penitence needed it, I will try some games to see how it feels.
*Maybe it's me, but I always thought that Exorcism for 250 points was expensive; in our games, they usually die easily (armor 4 and range 45cm) or are supressed with blast markers.
*I never understood why does Penitence and War Engines have initative 2 (at least I think that War Engines should have 1, like other titans)
*I think that you should add back the 2 Emperor's Chapel option. I have 2 of them and 1 Cathedral scratch made by a friend, and I used them some times and I think that they are thematic, but the true is that they are not really very good. Maybe we should remake the stats, and not just erase the option.
*I think that the Cathedral is now usable, with the adjusting in stats and being 450 points. It's not really OP or very good, but could be usable. I need to test it.
*I suppose that the Cathedral and Reaver should have fearless, but it's not written in the stats.
*I understand that the extra attacks in the reaver are in FF in assaults, but maybe it should be clarified.
*The Chapel has ignore cover in FF, but the Cathedral has not. I don't know if this is intentional or an omission.
*Penitent Engines now don't have ignore cover in small arms; again I don't know if this is intentional or omission.
*I think that now that Repentia have 2 attacks, they could be usable (1 of them MW).
*I think that now Repressor and Immolator having always armor 4 is a good idea; and limiting the use of Immolator to coven and repentia too.

Thank you.


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