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The New Death Korps of Krieg Army List

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:41 pm 
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Marauder as a WE? 5+ armour opposed to 4+ in other naval allied lists?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:08 pm 
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Yeah it's a 'Heavy' Marauder vs just a Marauder that everything else uses.

Historical bit: It's the case the originator was trying to differentiate the FW model from the GW sized stuff. Personally I find it all silly myself. If I was the Guard AC I'd put the kabosh on that and call it good. I don't think they show up too often so it's not been much of a call for/issue though.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:01 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
Yeah it's a 'Heavy' Marauder vs just a Marauder that everything else uses.

Historical bit: It's the case the originator was trying to differentiate the FW model from the GW sized stuff. Personally I find it all silly myself. If I was the Guard AC I'd put the kabosh on that and call it good. I don't think they show up too often so it's not been much of a call for/issue though.


True looks more like we need a Navy AC ;D


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Yes...I want my Maurader AC-130 w/volcano cannon NOW, damnit! :D

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:11 am 
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Looking for insight on a 3000 point list to add to my local gauntlet. I am working to get Epic some table time at my LGS, and Im investing into some armies to both test stuff and show people how to play. Can anyone show me a bog standard 3000 point DKoK list? Money isnt an issue.

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I'd pop over to the EEC threads. IIRC the army lists were posted and they had some nice DKoK builds. The centerpiece of that army tends to be a couple of PBI+gorgon deathstars in all cases.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:30 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
I'd pop over to the EEC threads. IIRC the army lists were posted and they had some nice DKoK builds. The centerpiece of that army tends to be a couple of PBI+gorgon deathstars in all cases.


Honestly, that list massively needs nerfing. At the 2017 EEC I ran:

Reg HQ + Gorgons
2 x Gorgon cos
2 x Shadowswords
Rough Rider
2 x tbolts
2 x single warhounds

Won every single game with a warhound on my opponent’s blitz. Only reason there wasn’t more complaints was it was the year Dan took the Thunderhawk armada.

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There are some small changes with the ERC that spun out of the NDC suggestions.... And when the Steel Legion changes are finally approved the DKOK are next in line for an overhaul


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RugII wrote:
There are some small changes with the ERC that spun out of the NDC suggestions.... And when the Steel Legion changes are finally approved the DKOK are next in line for an overhaul


Great to hear!

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StevekCole wrote:
RugII wrote:
There are some small changes with the ERC that spun out of the NDC suggestions.... And when the Steel Legion changes are finally approved the DKOK are next in line for an overhaul


Great to hear!



Not always great to hear.......

Some of these "overhauls" tend to wreck people's collections of armies.
I am interested, but not enthused?


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Mard wrote:
Not always great to hear.......

Some of these "overhauls" tend to wreck people's collections of armies.
I am interested, but not enthused?


I'm sure that's going to be taken into consideration with adjustments. At this point, points costs and stats have to be more viable for change than wholecloth alterations of very established armies.

Besides, doesn't the integrity and balance of the game always come first?


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Mard wrote:
Not always great to hear.......

Some of these "overhauls" tend to wreck people's collections of armies.
I am interested, but not enthused?


I'm sure that's going to be taken into consideration with adjustments. At this point, points costs and stats have to be more viable for change than wholecloth alterations of very established armies.

Besides, doesn't the integrity and balance of the game always come first?


You say that and I agree it should.
But I've seen it in many threads in here over the years where it does not.


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For my money, netea Krieg are currently the strongest army in netea or epic UK.

They’re pretty easily fixed though

Remove single warhounds as an option from the list
Make Gorgons 6+ FF
No shadowswords

By the far the most needed change is the lost of single warhounds as they basically address all the list’s intended weaknesses

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StevekCole wrote:
No shadowswords



That one surprised me a lot. I expected that no one would mention that as he would get ignored or stoned. On the other side it seems to me that it is also an effective way to stop the ''Why use Steel Legion if we have Krieg'' comments from continuing appearing, and there is still the plasma one to fill that role.

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