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nealhunt
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Post subject: The Ork preview list  Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:15 pm |
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Also, I am not convinced that any amount of Ork tinkering would be able to make a Vindicator (or Hellhound) into a Flak Wagon! |
I posted a typo. Either no one else caught it or they realized what it meant and ignored it. It should have been:
Gunwagons
Razorbacks
Vindicators
Hellhounds
Predator
I went and edited the thread.
With respect to the standard Ork-conversion modifiers, I considered that, but then that would mean making point costs for all the different variations. At the very least it would require a Marine-conversion factor and an IG-conversion factor because of the different point structures for the armies, i.e. different initative, strategy and morale rules make the point conversion different. I made up the Appendix Count-as-IG option for people who really wanted to field Imperial vehicles with minimal modification.
I'm actually strongly considering gutting my entire IG force to make a Blood Axe army that could be fielded either way...
One thing that I am not sure about is your theory that the Blood Axes would be a 'drop' force. I have not heard this before. |
From GW's official fluff:
By means of a few working spacecraft crewed by slaves, and by infesting suitable space hulks, the Blood Axes are able to launch sporadic raids on other Ork clanz. They do this to settle old scores; to capture loot, slaves and Gretchin.That put the drop-theme in my head and it seemed fun and different than the core Ork list. The Drop Kan idea is one that I've had running around my head so long I can't remember if I read it in fluff, a friend made it up way back when, or my own demented imagination produced it. I've even got a mental image of a crunched-down soup-can sort of pod, with a parachute landed haphazardly next to it.
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Are there mechanical/balance concerns or is it just the style you dislike?
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CyberShadow
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Post subject: The Ork preview list Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:51 pm |
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Jimbo? He gets everywhere!  Damn, now you have got me thinking about how an Ork would convert a Vindicator to a flak unit! I cant wait to see this.
Neal - Sorry, it is a product of my job that I pick at all of the little details, perhaps more than I should. Anyway, I am glad that Gubwagons are included as for me they are the key unit in a Blood Axe force.
You present a very good argument against Ork-conversion modifiers. I am not so keen on using Imperial vehicles unmodified. For me, a Blood Axe force is a load of Orky-Imperial vehicles. I was considering just using the standard Ork list and stats but changing the minis, but I am very intrigued by your list.
Dont get me wrong, I am certainly not against a drop Blood Axe list. I was just unfamiliar with the background behind it. Besides, I think that it will be the strongest element to distinguish the difference between the Blood Axe clan and the Deth Skullz, which would otherwise result in a similar looking force. Besides, I love the idea of Drop Kans! 
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CyberShadow
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Post subject: The Ork preview list Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:37 pm |
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Neal: I guess that the air-cav thing just hit me from left-field a bit, but I must admit that I warming to the idea. In general (and this is based on observation alone), it seems quite well balanced. I like the idea and I think that it will look cool.
But, for me, there just seems to be something missing, that I cant quite put my finger on. I think that it needs a stronger central theme. Right now, it a rearrangement of the standard Ork force, which is probably why the balance looks right. I think that it needs something different/new to mark it out. I want to collect both a standard Ork force, and a Blood Axe one, and I want the armies to play differently.
Am I making this clear? I will think on it some more. I think that the list works well.
Thanks.
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