danielcollins wrote:
scourn1 wrote:
So ive played Grey knight now for about 2 years, getting lucky enough to have gotten the official models from FW
I am all for them being elite and a little more expensive for better gear, but at the game time, they have to be playable.
I really don't get the change of Strike Squads from 300 for 6 to 325 for 6.
Im fine with tossing out the inquisition stuff mostly as id like just grey knights.
Was the 2+ FF for Purg to good? Feel like that should have stayed 2+
this isn't specifically targeted at you, but the rule of thumb is in a 3k game, you want at least 10 activations. They seem to really struggle with that.
They are a CC/FF army. The big problem is to make their units good and solid, able to win assaults, you need to add in eternal warriors/characters to many squads. That gets very expensive, for something that isn't that great.
Right now I have
6 Strike - Grand Master 2 Dreadnoughts 1 hunter+Rhinos
6 Strike - Libarian 2 Dreadnoughts - 1 Hunter Rhinos
4 Purge - 1 Brother champion
4 Purge
Thunderhawk gunship (both Purge transport to assault in it)
4 Interceptor - 2 Dreadknights (teleport in)
4 Land Raiders
2 Fighters
2 Fighters
4 Terminators - normal master
Its around 3600 some points. To fit it in, I have to drop the interceptor squad, and both squads of fighters. Gives 7 Activations, which is way low as the killing power isn't that high
I could look at lowering the Strikes to 300...but that's only going to save you 50 across your whole list.....
I think the feeling on the Pargations was that 2+ was too good, but I'm open to opinions on that.
I agree that it's difficult to get a lot of activations, especially ground formations that can score objectives. I'd say that is my biggest struggle in producing a viable list. It will need to be solved for the list to move out of experimental status.
Have you tried running one or two imperial warbands?
I guess my point about the points to 300 is just to be consistent. Yea, its 50 points saved, but it should match what it used to be.
Personally I don't think 2+ FF is to good. Khornes had 2+ in CC for a long long time. Deathwing termies also have 2+. Yea its CC and not FF, but still.
I guess how I would do it is as Marines, rule of thumb is 10 activations. 10 units that are on average 300 points. One might be 275, while another is 325. Im not saying GK should match. They are supposed to be the best of the best. Though that is hard to really bring to the scale of Epic.
I can try to take a look t the list and do suggestions. Off the top of my head, why not a unit of dreads by itself for 200 pts? Or the Dreadknights as a unit by themselves for 300 points? They are supposed to be in elite squads able to self govern what they do. More special forces, less army.