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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:00 pm 
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Welcome back.... Looking forward to a horde of NHS painted 6mm now!

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:53 am 
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NHS painted 6mm now!

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:36 pm 
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Thanks all for the kind words and humour which has put a smile back on my face again!

The bad news is that no minis were painted in hospital and I haven't had the energy or enthusiasm to do anything remotely Epic related. That said, I expect things will change for the better after a few more days of rest. It's simply inconceivable that I won't be back on posting about my love of the hobby!

Thanks again to everyone for the welcome back to Tactical Command! You all make this community great to be a part of! ;)

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Glad you're back at home Bissler!

Not to be too negative, but I felt obliged to add a warning against too much faith being put in the experiences of others. It may well be that diet helps for some people, but there is a reason why it is important to use scientific rigour when doling out advice. I see this "it worked for me" argument all the time, but unfortunately with these types of personal experiences it is impossible to evaluate the difference between correlation and causation. Sometimes things just correlate by chance, sometimes because they are both driven by some third factor, and sometimes because there really is a causative factor. But even in the latter case, it's very unusual in human healthcare to find something that is universally true. To use an example: "I did a rain dance every morning and I haven't had a heart attack since" is really exactly the same as "I stopped eating processed foods and haven't had a heart attack since", the only difference is that one of them sounds more plausible, i.e. appeals to your prior expectations. People naturally tend to believe evidence that supports their prior expectation (or what they want to believe), whilst rejecting/not looking for evidence of the contrary.

Without wanting to single anyone out, this one caught my eye (to paraphrase):
"crohn's disease is rare in asia; asians don't eat dairy; therefore dairy is a factor in crohn's disease"
Now, dairy might be a factor, but that observation alone does not tell us that - it's just a correlation. In actual fact, a genetic condition such as crohn's will vary in incidence according to genetic background, and thus segregate by race. Lo and behold, as well as having a lot of people who don't eat dairy, Asia also has a lot of Asian people in it. So it's possible that crohn's, a genetic condition, has low incidence in Asia not because asian people don't eat dairy, but because Asian people have different genetics. How can you tell which is true? You do large scale regression studies, i.e. conduct science. If multiple good quality independent studies are confirming each other's findings, that is when a link becomes more credible. Then you can start to test whether the same thing applies in different populations, what else influences whether diet does or does not help, and what exactly is it about dairy (for example) that makes a difference.

I will leave you with a more light hearted version of what I just wrote:
http://www.tylervigen.com

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:40 am 
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Hi Kyrt,

First off, those graphs are hilarious, thanks for sharing! ;D

I completely understand exactly what you are saying and where you are coming from on this, and I've been frustrated in the past (not on Tactical Command, but on Crohn's support groups and in "real life" situations) where people have suggested that by changing my diet that suddenly I will keep in much better health. The reason it particularly frustrates me is because it suggests that this disease is something that is brought on by my own actions and can be brought under control relatively easily.

The advice of the gastroenterologist is that this is a genetic condition and that diet plays absolutely no part in what is happening to me. Dieticians I have spoken to through the NHS also concur with this, and my experience since being diagnosed with this is that pretty much all foods cause me pain after I have eaten. Believe me, I have been keeping an eye on it as pain free living would make a massive difference to my life.

Crohn's disease seems to be something prevalent in the developed Western world and is almost unheard of in third world countries. No one knows why but some scientists suspect that we are not being exposed to enough infections these days and that the immune system is now attacking our own bodies as a result. I don't mean that to sound as silly sci-fi as it does, I just can't explain it better unfortunately! That said, I'm sure that the ideas people have shared about processed foods or milk, etc could equally be viable.

I'm at the stage at the moment that while I don't expect any dietary changes to help in the slightest, I'm pretty much willing to try anything in the hope that things may improve for me.

I do want to say that I appreciate all of the comments and suggestions above because it means a lot to me that people are taking the time to write something that could just help me, especially when this forum has nothing to do with Inflammatory Bowel Disease! It's very touching and encourages me to get back to "normal" as quickly as possible (I'm lying in bed just now trying to will myself the energy to finish my Marhaf Legion painting!). Hopefully things will pick up in the next few days and I can get back to my usual nonsense!

Thanks everyone again!

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Heh!

Cannabis is another interesting one, many people believe that it has anti-inflammatory properties and has the additional benefit of bringing pain relief. Sadly this is not something available on the NHS as there hasn't been enough research into it, mostly driven I believe by the UK's sickening hypocritical drugs policy.

The ward I was in for a week dealt with stomach and liver complaints and was largely filled with alcoholics. The destruction of health, mentally and physically, was shocking to see and that's only taking into consideration what these people do to themselves. It's no secret that much of the violence the occurs in the UK is as a result of alcohol consumption. When you think of the scale of misery that booze causes, I can't see the problem in looking again at other drugs to see if they can help people with medical problems at the very least.

I reckon I'll be touching the stones at Stonehenge ages before getting a stone for my Crohn's...

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 10:59 pm 
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The Bissler wrote:
Heh!

Cannabis is another interesting one, many people believe that it has anti-inflammatory properties and has the additional benefit of bringing pain relief. Sadly this is not something available on the NHS as there hasn't been enough research into it, mostly driven I believe by the UK's sickening hypocritical drugs policy.

The ward I was in for a week dealt with stomach and liver complaints and was largely filled with alcoholics. The destruction of health, mentally and physically, was shocking to see and that's only taking into consideration what these people do to themselves. It's no secret that much of the violence the occurs in the UK is as a result of alcohol consumption. When you think of the scale of misery that booze causes, I can't see the problem in looking again at other drugs to see if they can help people with medical problems at the very least.

I reckon I'll be touching the stones at Stonehenge ages before getting a stone for my Crohn's...
You might be interested in a recent Freakonomics podcast, basically "what if we just discovered alcohol now?". Indeed, the proportion of accidents and violence involving alcohol are ridiculously high - now there's a correlation for you ;)

Oh and elsmore, you're right, and regarding the "think yourself better" part, yep even placebo really can work. It's how homeopathy and all that alternative healing nonsense "works". It's a shame doctors can't prescribe sugar pills, sometimes a placebo is the only/best "treatment" available. I guess that's why they prescribe so many antibiotics for viral infections (which they can't affect), and also why in some places alternative therapies are available on the NHS.

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Despite the fact that I'm fairly anti-legalisation in the case of weed, I don't understand why people don't investigate its uses as a medicine.

Where I live you can get a cream with weed in it prescribed for joint pain(which is kind of a hilarious now that I think about it).

Why don't other countries allow this cream? It clearly works for people who suffer, and it's not like ssome stupid kid is going to smoke a perscribed cream medication.

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