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Wanted: Suggestions For A Multi-Legged Titan Miniature

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:50 am 
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I do like that as well! Decisions, decisions! It's a nice problem to have though!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:22 am 
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I have a very vague memory of seeing a render of a 4 legged Exodus Wars Behemoth at some point ages ago. I looked at their site but can't find it, I'm not sure if it's something not released yet. Maybe ask them?


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To go with the Primogenitor line http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/ha ... avy-walker seems like a good bet although the Shaltari walkers are awesome as well.

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Ral Partha won't be getting that walker in. >:(

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To go with the Primogenitor line http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/ha ... avy-walker seems like a good bet although the Shaltari walkers are awesome as well.


The Hades is a cracking model, but I'm thinking that at 13cm long it might be too big. The Shaltari are also lovely looking but feel like they'd be more at home in a Tyranid army, they definitely don't feel like they are going to mix well with the Plasmablast vehicles.

However! Despite the fact that it goes against my initial remit of having more than 2 legs, I do like the smaller walkers from the PHR line, the Enyo and Odin walkers being my favourite. The design fits pretty much seamlessly in with the Plasmablast line. The big question is: are they too small to represent a Titan? I'm thinking at just over 3cm high they might be a little on the slight side. This would be boosted by the stand,but still... :-\

From a fluff perspective, the Exiles have better technology so it would make sense that they could field what is essentially a Warhound sized Titan with an extra gun (the mini gun)...

Link for PHR walkers:

http://www.hawkwargames.com/collections ... nd-vehicle

Link for Plasmablast Vehicles that these "Titans" will be complimenting:

http://www.plasmablastgames.com/images/ ... 080_15.JPG

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 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Suggestions For A Multi-Legged Titan Miniature
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:08 pm 
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Basing helps with scale, building it up even more with miliput could work or doubling the thickness. Equally I agree they probably are too small for Titan equally as a Knight equivalent they'd be excellent. I'd also question whether a high tech race would necessarily need a giant titan. A smaller walker packing the same power would be a great demonstration of power.

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Yes, my thoughts as well Llamahead. I can't see them building anything bigger than Reaver size for definite.

Given that I'm going to give them a similar Deflector Shield technology as the Tau, maybe Knight-size is preferable. It would mean that they always get a 3+ save for the shield and then it's normal saving throw. It would seem unfair to then give the Knight hit charts to make them even more difficult to kill...

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I managed to dig out my Warhounds and measured them up. They are only marginally bigger than the Dropzone Commander walkers which is great news (for me at least)!

The pic below helped when you can see the walkers' comparative size next to 10mm infantry and know they'll look even bigger next to Epic figures. Given that these are much easier to source than the Battletech walkers, I think I finally have found my Titans.

A special thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, I really appreciated it, you've all given me inspiration when I had none!


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Glad to help.

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I'm a little late to the party but Blip mentioned the Infinity support bots and I'll throw in my support for that idea. I'm seriously considering the idea myself.

I happened to already have a pair of Yu-jing remotes from an early attempt to play infinity a few years back. As far as size goes, the smaller ones are about the same footprint as a FW Warhound. A bit lower to the ground, but the extra length and extra legs give them roughly the same bulk. The larger ones are definitely creeping up into FW Reaver territory.

Here are some super crappy phone cam pics showing some FW titans against a Yaokong (one of the smaller of the remotes). No weapons or heads mounted, just basic frame and legs for rough comparison.

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Overall, I think the Yu-Jing aesthetic matches the Marhaf best.
Yaokong These will probably be my basic scout titans if I go this route.
Su-Jian Also scout titans. Not sure what I'll do with the fact that they're apparently transformers, but that alone is too cool to resist.
Yaoxie These will probably be my smaller battle titans.

Haqqislam's aesthetic is a little more bulby than the Marhaf, but has a few of interest:
Kameel are at least Reaver sized and might be large enough for a solid battle titan equivalent to a Warlord. I especially like the EVO version, which would make a great EW/C3 node for an AI-controlled faction. I'd probably replace the soldier packs on the rear with some sort of missile racks.
Shaibs are small, probably more knight than titan sized, but would make good scouting vehicles.
Maghariba Guard are huge. These are easily Imperator size. I believe they're supposed to go on a 4 inch/8cm round base.

Nomads have two that catch my eye:
Lizard seems about the right size for a Warlord titan. I'd probably cut the pilot arms off and replace them with extra weapons from the bits box, though. It's one of the few TAGs in Infinity that isn't toting a giant sword or rifle of some sort, which is a plus for me, as those are scale cues that would make other TAGs look weird in a 6mm army.
Zonds of all sorts have roughly the right aesthetic, but the basic Zond Remotes here have the neat feature of 'roller' wheels, which I think fits the Marhaf style pretty well.

Finally, Aleph has Rebots, which also have a very solid Marhaf aesthetic, but I'm not super fond of the scorpion tail weapons. However, they've got a very Stalk Tank sort of vibe, and I could see loading them up with some close range anti-infantry weapons for an urban ambush knight/titan.


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One of the things that worried me about the Infinity minis was that I had no sense of their scale,so this is incredibly helpful!!

On the other hand, like Mr Pink in Reservoir Dogs "now I'm totally f**king tortured"! ;D

Infinity v DZC, what does the rest of the community think? :sos

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I think it pretty much boils down to what you like. I scanned your fluff thread, and based on that, these are my thoughts.

If you want to more subtly mirror the Imperium with your faction, the PHR minis, especially the heavy walkers, give you a very "Advanced Technology Warhound" look. Titans would have existed at the time your Exiles split off from the rest of Humanity as the first titans are M21, according to http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/M21 . So if you want to emphasize their development of human technology over time, this is a good way to go.

If you want to have something that's more distinct, showing the greater divergence from other humans, go the Infinity route. Imperials don't traditionally field multi legged walkers, so here you're showing that the Exiles will do whatever they need to in order to survive and prosper. Necrons field multi-legged walkers, so if you want to play up the idea of having stolen technology from there, multi-legged Infinity Remotes gives you a bit of a tie in as well.

From a purely practical perspective, the PHR stuff is rather cheaper than the Infinity stuff and is resin, instead of metal. Either of those may be a sticking point, depending on preferences. The PHR line also has dropships and other vehicles which may or may not fit your plans for future units that the Marhaf line lacks. In comparison, the Infinity line is really not meant for 6mm scale, so apart from the drones and bots, and maybe some of the TAGs, you're not likely to get a lot of other usables in the future.

From an absolutely pure aesthetic standpoint, I find the DZC minis to be very distinctive, due to their heavy use of grating and vents. The Infinity minis have more of the clean panels and lines that the Plasmablast Marhaf minis do, so I think they match slightly better, though the overall difference is pretty small. Both minis are about the same size, with the DZC ones being slightly taller, but less bulky (and both a bit smaller than a warhound, though not much).

Personally, I'm considering doing something somewhat similar to your project for NetEA, with a slightly different spin. For me, the Infinity remotes make a little more sense, as I'm playing up the theme of a society still driven and even controlled by AIs, so the less human oriented design is an advantage, not a drawback. I'm also willing to stick primarily with the Plasmablast minis and the limitations that line puts on army development, so I don't have a need for any of the other vehicles the PHR stuff would give me.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:18 am 
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Sounds good DaR! 8)

Please give me a shout once you have written up the background for your force, I'd be interested to read your take on what I'm currently describing as the Exiles. I'm delighted to see that I'm not the only person inspired to create a new foe to support this range of minis! :)

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Excellent! So many options, but which one to choose?! ;D


@L4: I don't have any Defilers so that is definitely worth looking in to !

The Edenite Turrets are perfect. I use them on my Defiler proxies ... Image That Eldar Farseer better have a lot of tricks in his bag !

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Very very nice!

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Excellent! So many options, but which one to choose?! ;D


@L4: I don't have any Defilers so that is definitely worth looking in to !

The Edenite Turrets are perfect. I use them on my Defiler proxies ... Image That Eldar Farseer better have a lot of tricks in his bag !


Oh! :o
Where are these legs from? They don't look like forumwarez...

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