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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:05 pm 
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Quote (Jackhammer @ 08 2004 Jan.,12:59)
They choose to charge relatively high prices for their products

This is true but compare them to competing 6mm Sci Fi figure lines.

You pay more but the figures are much better.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:06 am 
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Problem is there are NO real competing lines. No one else makes plastic 6mm sprues for sci-fi. So there's no real comarison in regards to that.

In regards to metal, only a handful of companies even make 6mm. Ground zero games makes some for their Dirstide game. I use them as proxies and their quaility I'd say is pretty good. Alternative armies makes some 6mm stuff Maksim showed some pictures of and they looked very good too. Monday knight productions carries the MAATAC line of vehicles which I think are very good as well. All pretty cheap for good quality.

This is not mentioning games like CAV, Battletech or Ogre that have models that could be used as epic proxies and are of very good quaility. Gw used to have undisputed dominance in the "quaility" department, but alternatives have also raised theirs enough to compare favorably.

Its also true however, that the cost of the alternative lines has gone up. So the actual ratio of cost versus quality are IMO all very similar.

Gw's epic has the still uncontested edge in having a very large and varied selection of 6mm miniatures (or will have once the releases kick in...). From infantry to titans. No one else can come close in this department and herein lies their forte. Lots of other companies make good vehicle proxies, but very few make good infantry ones and less so specialty vehicles that could compare to titans. Only GW has a little bit of everything.

What is perhaps interesting is that no other company has decided to "tap" the 6mm market, especially after epic 40k hit rockbottom. Its STILL, even with all of epic's ups and downs, GW's market to exploit.

I hope they do put 6mm sci-fi gaming back on the map....and the tabletop.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:21 am 
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About the love/hate thing, it's not at all strange. I love the game setting. I hate the attitude. And, I must admit, the prices. While the quality of the minis IS good it's not so good as to warrant outrageous prices. Fortunately, I have a large stock so I don't have to buy anything in order to play.

As for the attitude, I would think _nobody_ liked the "We are the only one there is. There are no others worth noting. We know everything best. This is OUR hobby." line. At least I don't. But I must also point out that IMO the specialist games have a markedly different streak from the "mainstream GW" in the attitude respect, which is good.

And then there are the marketing tactics Primarch already mentioned.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:59 am 
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Quote (Jackhammer @ 09 2004 Jan.,05:59)
Anyway, without them a whole series of great games wouldn't have been released

Thanks Jackhammer, an oft overlooked fact.  Without them in the firstplace we wouldn't have and enjoy...

...Epic...

...its too horrible to contemplate!  :oo

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Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 08 2004 Jan.,23:21)
As for the attitude, I would think _nobody_ liked the "We are the only one there is. There are no others worth noting. We know everything best. This is OUR hobby." line.

I've never run into it so I really couldn't say.

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I've seen it, not recently though. I think Confrontation & War Machine knocked a few store people off their high horses.


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I've seen it, not recently though. I think Confrontation & War Machine knocked a few store people off their high horses.


So true Serps. Conversing woth some friends in the US, these two games are making good headway in some regions and its most GW fans who are jumping in to play those games.

Competition is a alive and well.

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